Courgettes - what am I doing wrong?

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    For the second year in a row, my courgettes don't seem to be doing too well. At first, they were vigorous and happy looking, and I have had a couple of decent sized fruits - however, over the past couple of weeks, they have became less and less 'happy' looking.

    Since the start, the leaves have had that white spotted mottled thing going on, which I believed was a trait of courgettes? Anyway a day or so ago, the cucumbers that were sat behind them also started to take on wee white spots, and that worried me (thinking mildew) - so, today I whipped off all the dead and dying leaves, a couple of young fruits that were looking distinctly 'blossom end rotty' and then I shoved some canes in and tied them up a bit to stop them hanging over the edge of their pots. I have moved them away from the cucumbers (they are now up on a shelf at the back of the greenhouse), and fed them some tomato food to see if they perk up a bit - however, I am wondering if I should give them a boost with something else? Maybe chicken manure pellets, growmore or even bonemeal?

    I've had a general shift around in the greenhouse, and cut off any foliage that was yellowed or dying, and moved all sorts about - hopefully this will increase air flow and stop stuff getting too 'sticky', but if there is anything else that can be suggested, please fire away! :)
     
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    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Greenhouse??
    Courgettes are best grown outside, they are greedy and if grown in containers will need feeding at almost every watering.
    Think I would use a balanced feed rather than high potash.

    They also need pollinating, which might not happen as easily in a greenhouse.
    A happy courgette is a BIG plant.
     
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      The ones I am growing are called 'Patio Star' and are said to be compact plants; I left them in the greenhouse purely because they were a non-starter outdoors last year, and the greenhouse at the start they romped away, which is more than they did last year.

      I could bring them outside, if it would help, but I am concerned that they wouldn't stand up to winds as they aren't all that stable? Pollination isn't an issue as the double doors and four opening windows are permanently open - I am rarely in here without the company of bees busying themselves (and bashing their heads off the glass repeatedly :snork:)

      I'll give them some growmore tomorrow, as its balanced NPK (7% each I think)

      Cheers :)
       
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      Pretty much taken over my veg patch - I havent fed them at all but they get watered via the drip irrigation system..
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      I get a few leaves with the white mildewy stuff, if they get too tatty I just chop them off - I also cut the bigger leaves back as I need to to try to keep the air flowing around the fruit so they rot less.. just seems to make the plant grow more!
       
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      Mine definitely aren't as happy as yours @OxfordNick; I didn't get round to feeding them today, so really must do them tomorrow. Think I will try a mix of growmore and hit.
       
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      I am in the SE USA.... My (outdoor/garden grown) cucumbers are suffering from the same issues! Been battling this for about three or four weeks now. Initially I thought it was bc we had been swamped with rain for almost a solid 10 days.
      Sadly I have about lost all three plants. There continues to be new growth however and new cucumbers but they are stunted in growth. I am not sure the type I have and its too late to run out now. I will post again tomorrow and try and upload a photo as well.


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      Milk for the mildew perhaps?
       
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        I'm thinking of giving milk a shot with my courgettes and cucumbers today; the cucumbers seem to have stalled a bit too, for whatever reason.
         
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        These really are gross feeders, most of the Curcubit family are, at least the ones we grow as veg.
        So although they say you can grow in pots, I'm sure its a labour of love.
        Feeding at every watering would probably be the way to go.

        The white spots on the leaves in Oxfordnick pics are not mildew, they are just normal.
        There is a virus, but it shows up a bit different.
        More in the way of distorted leaves and yellow spots.

        Mildew is normally an end of season problem associated with dry roots.
         
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        Agreed.
         
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        Here's a close up of a cucumber leaf on my plant that looks to have some sort of mold/mildew on it. Unfortunately most leaves are now crumpled and dying, some four weeks later. Just checked the tag - they are "Burpless Cucumbers."

        *I cut several of the decaying ones off, so if it looks like it's laying the grass vs on the plant, it is :)
         

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        I sprayed all my cucumbers and courgettes with milk solution today, and the results were pretty much instant - they all look considerably healthier. There were a few leaves that were simply past it, so they were cut off and disposed of.

        I also spread some hit on top of the pots which will hopefully give a bit of a boost.

        What is the science behind the milk solution treatment?
         
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        Milk solution? What goes into that?

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        Half milk, half water. I am pretty sure it was @Kristen that advised it when I had a mildew problem last year.
         
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