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    I have been given some crocosmia yellow(George Davidson) and (Emily McKenzie) Bi Colour in pots,could you please advise,can I put them in now,or should I put them in greenhouse until later on in the year,and how deep do the roots go please,:ThankYou::blue thumb:
     
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    I'd get them in now Woo:blue thumb: they're tough plants ,just need the usual watering till they get settled in:thumbsup:
    The ones I'm going to send you are what I thought were Lucifer but I'm unsure now as all the Lucifers I've seen are taller and red:scratch:.These are aprox 3ft tall ,hope they'll be OK:thumbsup:...

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      Good evening Loli my friend and many thank's for your helpful and invaluable information ,it is very much appreciated:smile: its a lovely warm photo and they would be just great,If I could I would fill my garden with Roses,Crocosmias and Crane's bill:blue thumb::smile:

      Ps how deep do the roots go please:smile:
       
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        Always dependable for a good show I think the roots run along like mint, then pop up all over the place in my experience.
         
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          Good evening Rosietutu my friend ,thank you for that information the reason I asked is that where I would like to plant them there is only 6 inches of soil:smile:
           
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          Don't think its humanly possible to kill a Crocosmia , but what's under the six inch of soil WOO ?
           
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            Six inches of soil is good Woo as the crocosmia grow in chains along the soil so as Jenny has said they will soon expand outwards and along the border and in a few years time you will rob ably have to split them up.I planted a small clump a few years ago and they have one started coming up in my lawn.I think I made the mistake of not planting them a bit further back from the edge of the lawn.I tend to just mow the leaves of the ones coming up in the lawn as. Haven't got the time to dig them out at the moment...
             
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              Loli,I don't think your clump is Lucifer because as you say yours look orange and Lucifer is the pillar box red colour and I would say yours are possibly Emily Mc Kenzie but I could be wrong.Have tried to grow some of the other varieties but have ended up losing them when we have the harsh winters.

              Your clump looks pretty healthy and look fine specimens...
               
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                Good evening HarryS and Kandy my friends thank you,I have discovered only today that it is rotting wood and and brick rubble,when I went to turn the soil over:smile:
                 
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                There is quite a bit of confusion about Crocosmia and Montbretia. They are the same plant, so you can call it whichever you like, but Montbretia was a smaller hybrid version developed in France.

                Most horticulturists now distinguish between the two by calling the tall ones Crocosmia and the short ones Monbretia.

                The taller version tends to grow higher than the RHS give as a maximum height. They say it's 1.5 metres but once they are settled they can reach almost 2 metres.

                @wiseowl they can be planted out any time - keep watering at this time of year and especially because of the lack of depth of soil. They come from a small bulb/corm and propagate by growing more of them attached to the original corm. They, fairly quickly, form clumps of these corms (which will happily spread horizontally) with lots of roots and can form a dense mat that is hard to dig out.

                It's not too difficult to contain them in the ground if you dig, each year, around the area that you want filled in order to restrict them.

                @Lolimac those are definitely not 'Lucifer' which are a very deep red. We have Crocosmia Lucifer that seem to have, over the years, lost some of their deep red colour :what:. The big patch that they have formed are certainly not quite so red now, but some that we broke off the clump and planted elsewhere are redder than the parent plant :scratch:.

                When we had the GC outing to Bressingham the other week we saw some that were an even deeper red than Lucifer - but I can't remember the name :sad: (maybe @Kristen will remember :)).
                 
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                  shiney is spot on. the lucifer can and does grow very tall, and ideally needs staking. i planted a few bulbs 2 years ago, and this year they are over 6ft in the large border and full sun and around 5 ft in the border by the garage which is in shade permanently. gorgeous for structure and the vivid red colour.

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                    Good morning Shiney and Al n many many thanks for most your helpful and invaluable advice and help,I shall print the all these posts in this thread and keep them for future use:ThankYou:

                    Al n your garden is a credit to you and looks amazing:smile:
                     
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                      Good morning all.a neighbour has just given me a Crocosmia "Red King" so that is thee different ones now:smile:
                       
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                      If you have only got one or two corms, rather than a stonking big clump full, I would pot them. In the main they are indestructible, but the cultivars can be more fussy. I got George Davidson in a 9cm pot last year, and I don't think it would have survived if I had just planted it out ... it didn't rush to get under way properly but, planted out THIS spring, from a 1L pot it is now romping away. Between arrival last year and this Spring it has increased to perhaps 20 stems, so I am sure it will now get established. Several other cultivars I bought at the same time are still in pots, now moved up to 2L, because I am not convinced that they are properly robust as yet - although the majority that I bought went out this Spring.
                       
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                        Good morning Kristen and thank you my friend:smile:
                         
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