Crown Imperials

Discussion in 'Other Plants' started by pamsdish, May 5, 2012.

  1. pamsdish

    pamsdish Total Gardener

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2008
    Messages:
    5,151
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    "Black Country Wench" in Margam,Port Talbot,Wales
    Ratings:
    +4,445
    My 3 Crown Imperials I planted last year ,1 no trace , 1 grew no flower and 1 flowered majestically ,have now been decimated by slugs all that`s left is a bare stalk, will they come again next year ??
     
  2. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    50,489
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Mid Kent
    Ratings:
    +92,084
    Probably not.
    I found they get eaten by slugs under ground.
    Assuming the soil is free draining, they should do ok, but they should be planted quite deep.

    Cant understand why they are sold in shallow pots in spring in garden centres just coming into flower, they are usually miserable specimens.

    Also watch out for lilly beetles.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • pamsdish

      pamsdish Total Gardener

      Joined:
      Apr 5, 2008
      Messages:
      5,151
      Gender:
      Female
      Occupation:
      Retired
      Location:
      "Black Country Wench" in Margam,Port Talbot,Wales
      Ratings:
      +4,445
      Had to spray for lily beetles a month ago :nonofinger:
       
    • pamsdish

      pamsdish Total Gardener

      Joined:
      Apr 5, 2008
      Messages:
      5,151
      Gender:
      Female
      Occupation:
      Retired
      Location:
      "Black Country Wench" in Margam,Port Talbot,Wales
      Ratings:
      +4,445
      So while doing a little tidying last night I pushed the fork under them to look at the bulbs, they were all slimy and covered with decaying matter ?, I cleaned them off and still had 1 good size bulb with small bulblets on the base ,and 1 that fell into 2 separate smaller pieces.
      So what now ,I have left them in the greenhouse "drying" should I dry them right out and replant in the Autumn ,in a pot or whats the best advice .
       
    • pete

      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

      Joined:
      Jan 9, 2005
      Messages:
      50,489
      Gender:
      Male
      Occupation:
      Retired
      Location:
      Mid Kent
      Ratings:
      +92,084
      Oh no.
      You dont dig them up.
      They should be left in the ground, the top growth building up the new bulb for next year.
      I know you said all the top growth was eaten, but normally it would continue growing until late June.
      Once established they are best left alone and not lifted.
       
    • pamsdish

      pamsdish Total Gardener

      Joined:
      Apr 5, 2008
      Messages:
      5,151
      Gender:
      Female
      Occupation:
      Retired
      Location:
      "Black Country Wench" in Margam,Port Talbot,Wales
      Ratings:
      +4,445
    • simbad

      simbad Total Gardener

      Joined:
      Feb 27, 2011
      Messages:
      2,422
      Location:
      Lincolnshire
      Ratings:
      +3,318
      Oh what a shame Pam :sad:, I've been thinking of buying some myself so have read this with interest, looking at Petes advice I'll have to improve drainage in my heavy clay first :biggrin:
      We went to Harlow Carr this weekend and they had a fabulous display, soooo envious :wub2:
      016.JPG
       
      • Like Like x 4
      • pamsdish

        pamsdish Total Gardener

        Joined:
        Apr 5, 2008
        Messages:
        5,151
        Gender:
        Female
        Occupation:
        Retired
        Location:
        "Black Country Wench" in Margam,Port Talbot,Wales
        Ratings:
        +4,445
        So the crown imperials i dug up in May,I put in a pot and covered with compost ,decided to take a look and 1 large healthy bulb and 2 smaller ones ,so not willing to risk in ground I think i will put them in a pot with copper tape round .
         
      • pamsdish

        pamsdish Total Gardener

        Joined:
        Apr 5, 2008
        Messages:
        5,151
        Gender:
        Female
        Occupation:
        Retired
        Location:
        "Black Country Wench" in Margam,Port Talbot,Wales
        Ratings:
        +4,445
      • pamsdish

        pamsdish Total Gardener

        Joined:
        Apr 5, 2008
        Messages:
        5,151
        Gender:
        Female
        Occupation:
        Retired
        Location:
        "Black Country Wench" in Margam,Port Talbot,Wales
        Ratings:
        +4,445
        Pete one survived this is it today, :dancy: there is a shoot from another but no flower , will leave them in the pot to grow on.
         
      • longk

        longk Total Gardener

        Joined:
        Nov 24, 2011
        Messages:
        11,382
        Location:
        Oxfordshire
        Ratings:
        +23,091
        I grow these successfully in clay soil Pam. The soil has been improved to provide the drainage they need but the most important thing to prevent rot (in the ground or in a pot) is to plant the bulbs on their sides.
         
      • pete

        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

        Joined:
        Jan 9, 2005
        Messages:
        50,489
        Gender:
        Male
        Occupation:
        Retired
        Location:
        Mid Kent
        Ratings:
        +92,084
        Ahhh, but do they stay on their sides:biggrin:
         
        • Funny Funny x 1
        • longk

          longk Total Gardener

          Joined:
          Nov 24, 2011
          Messages:
          11,382
          Location:
          Oxfordshire
          Ratings:
          +23,091
          Boogered if I know, I've never dug 'em up :heehee:
           
          • Funny Funny x 1
          • pete

            pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

            Joined:
            Jan 9, 2005
            Messages:
            50,489
            Gender:
            Male
            Occupation:
            Retired
            Location:
            Mid Kent
            Ratings:
            +92,084
            Just think if you plant them on their side the first year, will they still be that way the following year?;)
             
          • PeterS

            PeterS Total Gardener

            Joined:
            Mar 18, 2005
            Messages:
            6,662
            Gender:
            Male
            Occupation:
            Retired
            Location:
            N Yorks
            Ratings:
            +4,015
            A few days ago I went to a very good talk by Kevin Pratt, who used to hold the national collection for Fritillarias. He talked about all manner of unusual hardy bulbs. He said that generally Fritillarias are very hardy - some down to -18C, but they don't like the wet and tend to rot over winter if its too wet.

            He grew lots of the smaller ones, and said that he tended to grow them under evergreen hedges and shrubs, where they were kept dry over the winter. They could then grow up through the other plants. However he didn't mention F. imperialis - I wished I had asked him - but I had so many questions about other things.

            He also used to have the national collection of Eucomis, and said the same about them. His tip was to put a handful of perlite both above and below when planting them.
             
            • Like Like x 1
              Last edited: Jan 25, 2016
            Loading...

            Share This Page

            1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
              By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
              Dismiss Notice