Cyclamen help

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  1. Fof

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    When I first started to bring my new garden to life, I discovered a bunch of gnarly, old cyclamen corms. I replanted them and as things evolved, they got moved around. I'm "fairly sure" that they are at last where they will stay.
    Cyclamen corms  01.jpg Cyclamen corms  02.jpg Cyclamen corms  03.jpg Cyclamen persicum (Florists' Cyclamen)  01 - small.jpg Cyclamen persicum (Florists' Cyclamen)  02 - small.jpg
    Their flowering period just don't seem to agree with "the book".
    Most of them keep a few leaves all year round, but start to come into full growth around July. They are now in full bloom. and will continue till around May.
    This is a pic just taken. Sorry for quality, but it's taken from the window, as Gabriel is merrily tickling the angels.
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    Does anyone have any idea as to species?
     
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    They look like the ones sold buy garden centres as pot plants, so probably hybrids.
     
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      I tend to agree with @pete

      We have the natural wild type which are somewhat different (I'll try and take photos tomorrow) and the corms are as big as yours. Ours tend to flower twice a year and have been in flower for the last month. None of them keep their leaves and they flower after the leaves have died back.
       
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        Hi pete
        I have to admit, I have them logged as C.persicum (Florists' Cyclamen), for want of anything better.
        I accept that they are almost certainly cultivars, but C. persicum is supposed to be NOT hardy. These are outdoors and totally ignore any frosts we get. Last winter I recorded -4C several times.
        C. coum is hardy, but flowers at the wrong time. All the other Cyclamens seem to be none hardy and flower at the wrong time, as well.
        They don't appear to have read the instruction manual, on how and when they are supposed to to grow and flower.:oops:
        There are dozens of seedlings popping up everywhere they have been. They have only been at the base of the Salix for about 3 months, but even here there are LOTS of seedlings.
        Do I have a new strain of invasive Cyclamen, ready to take over the world?:runforhills::runforhills:
         
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          I think, and no expert by any means, that persicum are those large flowered ones that you get, these are a smaller version often sold as autumn bedding plants, but not intended to survive in most places, as you are mild down there I'm guessing they are naturalising.

          That kind never makes it through the winter around here, possibly in costal areas.
           
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            Ours are certainly hardy as they were there before we moved in over 50 years ago. Our flowers are smaller than yours but they may also be that we haven't fed them or put compost on them for about 40 years. Our temperature was -12C for a week last winter.
             
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              Those are definitely C. persicum. They will take temps down to about 5c before really suffering, especially in a sunny well drained spot. There are newer varieties which are hardier after a frost hardy form was found in Lebanon a few years back.
               
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                Hi Palustris
                Interesting.
                Strange that no sellers mention anything about these hardier forms. Do you have any more info on them?
                 
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                It was mentioned in the Cyclamen Society magazine a few years back. Sadly I no longer have access to that body of information.
                 
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                  Thanks. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
                   
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                  @Fof sorry for the delay in posting the photos of our hardy natural and quite wild Cyclamen persicum (I think). They grow like mad and spread everywhere, through the beds and lawns and we love them!

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                    Sorry, but those do not look like C. persicum to me. They look more lik C. hederifolium.
                     
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                      Thanks @Palustris as I had no real idea about them as they were in the garden when we moved here 51 years ago.

                      They're certainly very hardy.
                       
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                      And very long lived too.
                       
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