Do I need to deadhead these roses?

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  1. robgil

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    My neighbour says i dont because no more will grow , what do you guys think , I can remember removing the dead heads last year but I am unsure if more roses grew back as a result.

    These photos are old , the roses are now dying and a lot have turned brown.

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    Hello Robgil

    Gorgeous cottage, by the way!

    I presume your neighbour means that the rose isn't 'repeat flowering' - ie, it has one flush of flowers and then packs in for the year. Old roses and ramblers often fall into this category. I'm afraid I don't know the name of your rose, so I can't be specific (but maybe there's a forum member out there who can).

    If you dead-head a once-flowering rose, you will lose any decorative hips the plant might produce later in the season. That is the only harm you will do, however. There's nothing wrong with tidying up your rose if you so wish.
     
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    found this on the saga site when i was trying to find the difference between climber and rambling rose.
    Val Bourne advises a reader who wants to plant some roses on a pergola but doesn't know the difference between a climber and rambler



    The short answer is that rambling roses usually flower once whereas climbers usually repeat flower throughout summer and autumn, but there are exceptions.



    If you want your garden to be smothered in roses during June choose a rambler as repeat-flowering climbers only give you measured flushes of flower and never make quite the same impact.



    The ideal combination is a June-flowering rambler planted close to a repeat-flowering climber. Then allow one of the gentle late-summer viticella clematis to twine through them. This way you should have flowers until September.



    Whichever you choose all roses flower better if trained because bending and coiling the stems slows down the flow of sap and promotes more flowering shoots.



    The best time to train climbing roses is autumn when the shiny new stems can still be bent and turned without breaking. Choose strong stems and, armed with thick gloves and goggles, curl them round a stake or pillar or loop them along the top of the fence.



    You can also buy hooped rose trainers for shrub roses, or simply bend the branches down to the ground and fix them down ( Helmingham Hall Gardens)


    Ramblers



    You prune rambling roses when you train them by simply cutting out some of the old stems at the base. These are replaced by new strong branches. The branches should be fanned out from the base, rather like a fruit tree, if the rose is against a fence and then the stems can be looped along to the top edge of the fence, rather like looper caterpillars.


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    Ramblers are very disease tolerant as many are close to species roses.

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    Also once-only roses don't need deadheading and some will produce a crop of hips.


    Five star ramblers



    1. 'Goldfinch' - shiny, coppery foliage and clusters of small apricot roses that fade to cream.



    2. 'Sander's White' - deep-green leaves and loose clusters of late white flowers, particularly good in semi-shade.



    3. 'Veilchenblau' - faded purplish flowers that are stunning against grey-tinged stone.



    4. 'Paul's Himalayan Musk' - clusters of the palest pink flowers. Too vigorous for fences and better up a large apple tree.



    5. 'Phyllis Bide' - a repeat-flowering rambler with small apricot-to-yellow flowers - a restrained grower perfect for a pillar


    Climbers



    Climbing roses are pruned in winter and they need a more sympathetic regime. Slightly reduce the main leaders and prune back the side shoots to six inches.



    Most climbers are more highly-bred and therefore prone to black spot, a fungal disease of roses. The greenest way of keeping your roses clean is to either mulch under the rose bush or under plant with lavenders, violas, hardy geraniums or campanulas. Both methods will prevent the fungal spores from being washed back on to the rose.


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    All repeat-flowering roses need to be dead headed to encourage more flowers.

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    Climbers vary in habit enormously . Some, like 'Lady Hillingdon', hang their heads down while others can only be admired from the roof.


    Five star repeat-flowering climbers



    1. 'New Dawn' -silver pink flowers set against apple-green foliage - beautiful underplanted with blue catmint



    2.' Aloha' - a horrible name for an excellent deep-pink pillar rose.



    3. 'Madame Alfred Carrière' - a blush-white noisette rose that is unbeatable on a north wall or in shade.



    4. 'Madame Gregoire Staechelin' - large-glowing pink flowers with a sweet-pea scent followed by hips.



    5. 'Penny Lane' a recently bred, honey-champagne rose with a good scent



    Late Summer ' Viticella' Clematis - perfect for growing through roses


    The following five are drought resistant should be pruned back to the lowest buds in early spring



    1. 'Etoile Violette' a dark, purple-blue clematis with widely-spaced petals - best with peach and pink roses



    2. 'Purpurea Plena Elegans' a faded maroon-red pompom - good with paler roses particularly pale-pinks.



    3. 'Madame Julia Correvon' single claret flowers good with pale-pinks and apricots



    4. 'Betty Corning' this frilly lilac-flowered clematis has pink veins and it can be grown close to any pink rose.



    5. 'Alba Luxurians' - a green-tinged white clematis - grow near or over any vibrant climbing rose
     
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