Dorset Naga Chillies......

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  1. Honey Bee

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    Did anyone see Gardeners World this evening???!!!

    They had the results of the chilli trial - and the Dorset Naga went off the scale for hotness!!!!

    It was also interesting when they said that the hotness of the fruit can differ dramatically on one plant. That could explain why some of my ones I sent out were disappionting.

    I am still suffering the aftermath of a silly chopping of 2 chillies without gloves episode - 24 hours later!! Mega stingy fingers!!! [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I am taking cuttings from my plant, so hopefully will have a few to pass on in the spring.... The seeds I have now may not give true Nagas, as I have 4 types of chillies - all next to each other.
     
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    Just make sure you don't rub your eyes (or anything else for that matter ;o) ) like i did last time we had chilli for dinner!
     
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    ive got a few nagas they flowered and igot about 3 chillies which have now turned red my problem is they are no bigger than a garden pea what do you think i did wrong
     
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    I'd just like to ask a question to all the hot chilli lovers and this looks like a good thread to tag it onto.

    What is this obsession with growing or eating the hottest chillies you can find?

    As someone who likes a mild chilli, and I can understand why someone might like a hotter chilli, but I struggle to understand why people want hotter and hotter ones when even those people cant eat them.

    Does anyone really eat these very hot chillies, or is it a case of, only use a small amount?
     
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    Hi Pete,

    I grow very hot chillies and enjoy eating them raw :thumb:. I eat them with all my hot meals and just had some with my roast chicken tonight.

    I can understand that there is no point in eating them if they make you uncomfortable - or worse :(. I grow Scotch bonnet, Naga, and other extremely hot ones but find that the reputedly hottest chillies are not always as hot as some of the others. As Honey Bee says, they can vary in strength even on the same plant.

    From experience I find that on each plant, with the hot varieties, the juicier the chilli the hotter it is. For people that can take the heat they find that they can appreciate the individual flavour of the chilli. For instance, the Naga has a distinctive 'musty' flavour whereas the birds eye has a fresh flavour. Scotch bonnet is somewhere inbetween.

    Apart from myself, I have a number of friends who love very hot chillies. I never have a problem with eating them although I am careful when I find that an individual chilli is super hot. I regularly get asked the question about whether I have problems when it reaches the other end :hehe:. The answer is no :gnthb:

    To answer the last part of your question. If it is very hot I only eat a small amount. This is easy as I eat them fresh. That way there is no problem about having put too much into the cooking. When I have a curry I make it medium hot and then sprinkle chopped fresh chillies on it - to taste.
     
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    Well thanks Shiney.
    My next question is this, if you can eat very hot chillies without them burning your mouth does this mean that you have a very poor sence of taste.
    Example, does most food taste very bland to you.

    I'm just trying to understand how they can burn some peoples mouths an not others.

    Also if there are any digestion problems that can be caused by eating hot spicy food long term.

    Just my curious mind.:)
     
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    Mild chillies are nice to eat with your salads. Whereas the hotter ones are better for cooking with.

    We all have different tastes and there will be a pepper to suit everybody.

    I've been making chilli sauce using my Ring of Fire but as the crop is slowly being used up I am planning to grow something a bit hotter next year so I will have to use less to achieve the same heat. I have some Bhut Jolokia seeds but I'm not sure how prolific they'll be in our climate. Whats a good prolific variety that will do well in our short season?
     
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    Hi Holty, did you feed them? You can give them the same feed as tomatoes, which helps the fruit develop.
    Also, if you only had three I wonder if they were getting polinated. You could go round with a paintbrush if you don't have a breeze or insects to do the job for you.
     
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    Hi Pete,
    I have a very keen sense of taste and can usually work out what spices have been used in a curry at an Indian restaurant. Of course, sense of taste is also linked very closely to sense of smell. So if your sense of smell is impaired you may have problems with taste.

    I think that to a certain degree chillies are an acquired taste and the effect of their heat can be tempered by familiarity. Sensitivity to many tastes and flavours varies considerably between people.

    Digestion problems can be caused, and helped, by spices.

    For people that can't take hot chillies their mouth, tongue and stomachs can be inflamed or burnt (sometimes seriously) but there are thought to be many benefits of eating chillies as well. The chemical in chillies that causes the heat is capsaicin. This is thought to help reduce blood sugar levels, the effect of rheumatiod arthritis and there are some indications that it may help reduce the effect of some cancers.

    As with most things, an excess is not good.

    Other spices are well known to have favourable effects on the body.

    Hi Dirty :hehe:,
    Most hot chillies are slow growers in our climate. The recommended way to deal with this is to plant them earlier and mollycoddle them :).

    Chilli plants are perennial evergreens and can be kept from year to year if you have a suitable place to keep them. I generally overwinter mine in the lounge near the french doors - warm and light :thumb:. Some of my plants have now successfully completed their fourth season.

    I still raise new ones each year (and sell them for my charity) and I plant the seeds any time from October onwards. The ones I planted in October are 6" high and the ones I planted in November are at the six leaf stage and have just been potted on. Early planting promotes early fruiting but you are still unlikely to get a profuse crop until August. My overwintered older plants manage to start giving the occasional fruit from May and they slow down in November. I then prune them back and continue to prune them if they show early growth. Although they are evergreen they will drop most of their leaves in our climate and try to produce more throughout the winter.

    The normally recommended time for planting chilli seeds is Feb but if you have a warm place, with light, to keep them then I would start earlier. If you already do this then I can send you a few chillies that I have been drying so that you can try planting some of those seeds. Take the seeds out and use what's left. :)
     
  10. pete

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    OK thanks Shiney.

    I'm sure you love them.

    Me personally, I cant see what all the fuss is about.
    But thats usually the case, when you boil it down to personal preference.

    Whishing you a very hot Christmas and a very hot New Year.:)
     
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    Thanks pete,

    I'm bound to have it hot on two counts. I'm off to Indonesia soon so the temperature will be up to 30C with 75% - 95% humidity (it's the rainy season) and the food should be nice and spicy :gnthb:. From there I shall be going to Australia where it is their summer.
     
  12. pete

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    Right OK shiney.

    Have a good time, I'm sure you wont, your bound to be worrying how we are all getting on over here, but thats just something you'll have to try to put up with.:lollol:
     
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    It's OK, pete. I used to really worry about everyone on GC suffering from the cold at this time of year whilst I was traipsing through jungles and deserts but I have managed to work my way through it.

    I can now cope with the situation without too much stress and they say that practice makes perfect :). So I have been practising very hard and have forced myself to go away on these perambulations even more. I think the theory is working :hehe: :rotfl:

    have a great Christmas and New Year :flag: :yho: :yho:
     
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    I grew about 80 Naga Bhuts on one plant this year! Ok granted they have not all gone but they are certainly going slowly.

    I really can not see any use for the unless you are under 20 and like doing stupid things.

    10 of my friends (inc me) have eaten them, one managing 2. (There was £5 riding on him doing the second one, even though the rest of us could not handle a second one for a £5er and we are students!)

    Has made 9 friends (inc me) throw up! shake, red face and in a hell of a lot of pain for 30mins. Seriously these things are stupidly hot, how can anyone use them in cooking! I know the Dorset Nagas are a bit weaker but still these things are INSANE!
     
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