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Everflow hosepipe?

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    Mervyn Wilmington Experienced Gardener

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    With a very large garden - around an acre - the ability to get water round the garden is important. One problem is the hose kinking to the point of preventing the passage of water. Quite often, I find myself disconnecting a hose completely to 'unravel' it, even though I use high quality hose.

    I recently came across Everflow made by Copley. It is claimed that even when 'doubled over', water will still flow. Feedback seems to support that. However, some users identify a problem.

    The ability for water to flow is achieved by a 'spine' running internally through the hose. Some users have found difficulty in getting connectors etc to seal fully, and have had leaks. One user referred to the need for a special tool to remove the spine for a very short distance into the hose. Other users report no problems at all.

    I did the obvious thing: several days ago, I emailed Copley asking about these issues. Remarkably, I haven't received a word from them.

    (In another post recently, I mentioned having contacted Hyundai about one of their products, and got nothing back: I still haven't).

    I wondered whether any members use Everflow hose, and whether it performs as the makers claim. Is there an issue about removing the spine to get a good seal?

    Advice will be much appreciated.
     
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      I can offer no advice except to say my SinL has the yellow one and it is great to use. He has several lengths joined with no problem. :thumbsup:
       
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        Thanks for that. Copley/Everflow don't show a yellow one: they are green/grey. Perhaps it is an older pattern. Do you know whether it has the inner 'spine' as the current version?
         
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          He has had it for a few years now and of course it might not be the copley one but it has the inner spine and is also a bit bigger than normal hose in diameter.. Hope that is a help he can't remember the makers name sorry..
           
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            Thanks for that. It sounds as though that might be 3/4". I'll have to have a think. Most of my hoses don't actually move: they simply, via manifolds, get water to one or another area of the garden. It is the last 30 metres or so that gets dragged around and kink. At about £1 per metre, I may have to work-out just how much I need for the 'dragged-around' lengths. I guess that is going to be about 100 metres.

            The Everflow is 'recommended' by RHS: that may mean something - or not!

            Thanks again for the help.
             
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              He has soaker hoses laid around too for the more difficult areas to get to as well..
               
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                I bought 100 metres. The cheapest place was Argos (online)! Still works out at around 85p per metre. Unfortunately, it doesn't come on a reel, and simply coiled isn't the easiest way of getting 50 metres off without kinks etc until you can straighten it out.

                Moreover, the the inner spine is already removed for a couple of inches at either end, but, when you cut lengths, you have to remove the spine. I have some very small craft type knives and they were fine.

                The flow is good even when kinked. That was the main reason for buying the Everflow.
                 
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                  I have one - don't use it currently, as the inner spines restrict the flow a bit, and when coupled with my already borderline water pressure it means that sprinklers and pressure washers will not run as they don't have enough pressure.

                  The construction of the hose itself seems to be good though, and if you do have to cut it the inner spines are quite easy to remove for the needed inch or so to get fittings on. And it does truly live up to its claim of continuing to allow water to flow even when kinked (not that it fully kinks, thanks to its design)
                   
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                  Fortunately, we have high water pressure, so much so that the Hozelock lance usually tries to fight me unless I reduce the pressure! I'm will enjoy not having continually to walk backwards and forwards to 'unkink' it.
                   
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                    Aye, I can relate to that - my Hozelock hose is so bad I nickname it Sir Kinksalot.
                     
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                    I gave the Everflow the first proper test this morning. Dragging 40 metres of heavier than usual hose takes a bit more effort. However, it had three very sharp kinks and a couple of fairly tight bends. The flow was slightly down but still more than good enough. It was wonderful not to have to stop to unkink the hose. It did well for my energy and patience!

                    I pronounce the Everflow a success.
                     
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