Evil foster-carer

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  1. Jack by the hedge

    Jack by the hedge Gardener

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    I was shocked to see the news item about the woman - a Jehova's Witness - who had abused children in her care by making them drink bleach, eat their own excrement, and who had rubbed sandpaper over their bodies etc., and who had slyly moved house in order to avoid the attentions of social services. I'm astonished that such a twisted individual was not rooted-out in the selection processes and, furthermore, that the services involved seemed to have lost track of her so that no checks were carried out.
    When the gay adoption row surfaced a few weeks ago, I must admit I tended to side with those who were opposed to the idea. However, after hearing of this horror I now realise that a loving environment in which to raise a child with responsible carers is a far more important
    consideration than the personal relationships between the adults involved.
     
  2. Victoria

    Victoria Lover of Exotic Flora

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    I saw that Jbyh. It's quite appalling how much does go unnoticed. I completely agree with your sentiments.
     
  3. miraflores

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    Of course if foster children cannot be checked periodically by social services, they should not be given to the person who has to look after them in the first place.
    Children need stability and therefore somebody who moves all the time is not a suitable person anyway.
    As far as the gay adoption is concerned: I do appreciate that whoever gives some stability to a child, love, affection and satisfy his basic needs is what really counts, whether it is a parent or the main carer.
    My preference, though, goes to the mixed sex couple,and I am not only thinking of the adults involved here, but also the children.
     
  4. Jack by the hedge

    Jack by the hedge Gardener

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    I agree, miraflores, that a mixed-sex family is probably the best environment for a child, but it struck me that the children involved who were being made to drink bleach would undoubtedly have preferred to be in a loving household of two men or two women.
    The case certainly proves that the religious convictions of the foster carer is no guarantee of a suitable upbringing. I've just watched the 1 o'clock news and see that Catholics are again demonstrating over the gay adoption issue. I would be more convinced by their stance over the issue if the Catholic Church's own record on child welfare had been spotless, but the stories of cruelty inflicted by Nuns in Catholic orphanages are legion and the recent reports of cover-ups concerning paedophile priests are shaming.
     
  5. mef750

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    Please Jack by the hedge, dont taint all catholic orphanages. My daughter was in 1 as a baby and it was a realy good 1 as well.
    The kids couldn't wait to get home from school, they had there own swimming pool in the basement and the rooms were inpecable!
    My daughter is adopted!
    MEF750
     
  6. elainefiz

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    I started to read it and had to turn the page.
    I`d like to be left alone,in a very small room with her. [​IMG]
     
  7. Kandy

    Kandy Will be glad to see the sun again soon.....

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    I haven't seen the news item,but nothing suprises me in this day and age.When my parents were foster parents and then adopties,Social Services would come into my parents house without an invitation day or night to see what conditions the children and us were living in.That went on for 12 months before my parents went to court and was able to adopt the child they were fostering...

    A good book to read on child neglect and abuse is 'A Child Called IT' by Dave Pelzer.It is a true story of how a loving mother could turn against one of her own children.Luckily he has made something of himself and I think his website is Dave Pelzer.com but I am not completly sure as it has been a couple of years since I read his books.....
     
  8. mef750

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    Kandyfloss is right, a boy called it, the lost boy, and a man named Dave. 3 great books to read.
    after reading them you will get an insight to just how bad abuse can be on a child!
    MEF750
     
  9. compostee

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    My friend fosters. We were both appalled by the news item. There is no excuse for that sort of treatment. Especially with the rigorous checks and allowances in favour of the kids these days.
     
  10. Jack by the hedge

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    I would never dream of doing so. I'm sure there are many excellent ones where the children are treated kindly and indoctrination doesn't occur. I'm afraid this latest case, where the services responsible for monitoring the situation seem to have been so negligent, has made me very angry and caused me to completely re-think my position on the gay adoption issue. It seems to me that the Catholic position taints gay couples by supposing that all such people are unsuitable to be considered as adoptive parents in every case by their organisations. When I think back to some horrific cases of child abuse which have been reported over the years I can only recall so-called "straight couples" as being responsible for the horrors inflicted on children in their care -in the majority of cases by the natural parents or the partner of one or the other . Catholics, who want to be excused on the grounds of religious beliefs from complying with current legislation, must surely realise that such a concession in a country which, today, harbours people of many different faiths and creeds would create an unholy mess by various groups wanting to opt out of complying with any laws which conflict with their beliefs - although a case could be made that, in some instances, this already happens.
     
  11. mef750

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    Hi Jack by the Hedge.
    When I adopted my children social services could come into you home without notice at any time as Kandyfloss stated!
    That to me is a good thing, if you have nothing to hide there souldnt be a problem!
    As for gay's adopting or fostering I have no problems with that! it should be the person or persons that should be the top priorit.
    In this day and age where races are concerned, this to me is whats causing problems! (Its about minorits beeing included at any cost)
    I think they should go back to basics again.
     
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