Found in my new garden

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  1. RowlandsCastle

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    I found this plant hidden amongst other plants, and would be interested to know what it is - so that I can relocate it to the right part of the garden, prune it, or dispose of it (in an environmentally friendly way of course).
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    It stands about 3ft high, plus pot.

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    Thank you
     
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    Looks mighty like a pear seedling ?
     
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      Looks like a pear to me too. Are there signs of it having been grafted? An ungrafted pear can grow as tall as an oak tree and take a couple of generations to produce any fruit
      … and when it does it’ll at the out of tech at the top of the tree. If it’s not grafted onto a rootstock I’d get rid of it.
       
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      Perhaps plant it quietly ''in the public domain ''
       
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        I thought pear too, but I had a look at my 4 pear cordons and the leaves of all of them are much wider.
        Google came up with type of Quercus (oak)....
         
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        I’m 99.9999999999 % certain it’s not a Quercus

        Newly opened young pear leaves tend to be quite narrow and the get broader as they mature. The ones in your photo look pretty recently unfurled as they’re very shiny.

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          Thank you all.

          If it IS a pear, that would be interesting. However, it definitely isn't grafted. A spindly tree that won't produce fruit for some years, isn't helpful.

          @infradig , that's an interesting idea. But a tree is a tree, and we do have the space for an extra one, just to encourage the wildlife. If I change my mind, it should be easy to remove.
          We had considered replacing our peach tree with a pear - but with one that produces now.

          @Pete8 , if it's a quercus (not familiar with the name), then I'll have to reconsider where it can go.

          Edited to add. Wrong type of leaf shape for an oak though.
           
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          This was the one Google came up with - Shingle Oak.

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          Okay @Pete8
          Maybe! Perhaps I'll plant it in a quiet corner.
           
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          It may be that, but if I was putting 50p on it, I'd go with pear too.

          You could plant it where you would like a pear and see what happens.
          If it turns out to be an oak, that's different matter!

          PS - considering its size I imagine it would be producing flowers in the next year or two if it is a pear
           
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            I don't think I could throw it away before I knew what it was! Is it deciduous? There are evergreen oaks around here but the leaves are smaller.
             
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            Maybe the previous owners grew it from a seed. :)
             
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            I'm certain it's deciduous.
            It's getting too big for its pot, so needs putting in the ground, or a larger pot. I don't have a spare pot (of the right size) - but I do have some space.
             
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            If it’s not grafted onto a rootstock that’ll limit it’s size it’s unlikely that it’ll start producing fruit for many years. Hence the old saying ‘you plant pears for your heirs’.
            Growing Pears for Early Fruits - Chris Bowers & Sons
             
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              Thank you @Dovefromabove
              Even if it doesn't produce blossom or fruit, it could still be a home for some wildlife - other than woodlice.
               
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