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    Please does anyone know how to seriously discourage foxes? I have a big one and a medium sized one (were 2 when little but one was roadkill) that make some damage in my garden and have always been annoying. But I have recently adopted a cat and the younger fox visits the garden during the daytime so am now very worried it will attack her.
     
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      City foxes are difficult to deter as they seem to have lost all fear of humans, a clear garden with little or no cover will make them feel exposed and vulnerable. Lots of cover is what attracts all wildlife, a tidy mowed lawn garden is less attractive to them. Hugh fearlessly eats it all, went to a local barbers and hung clumps of hair trimmings in old pairs of tights round his hens to deter them as they don't like the smell of humans, but I think that is more for country foxes to be honest. Human urine sprayed round the perimeter of your garden is also said to deter them, though not so conducive to sitting out and the neighbours might complain too.
       
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        Good afternoon @JJ28 my good friend I cannot guarantee that it won't happen but in my experience it's possible but very unlikely. A typical urban fox home range can be also occupied by upwards of 100 cats, and most of these are out at night. Foxes and cats meet many times every night, and invariably ignore each other.:smile:,

        First things first, it’s against the law to use any form of inhumane and poisonous control methods and any chemicals that you might decide to use, must be covered by the Control of Pesticide Regulations 1986.
        Instead, we would support official advice to try and remove whatever it is that’s attracting the foxes into your garden in the first place – most typically food and/or shelter.

        If you’re in the habit of tying up bin bags and leaving them outside in your garden then you’re basically sending the local foxy folk an open invitation to a garden feast. A fox’s sense of smell is so sophisticated that it can smell food from great distances.

        Instead try disposing your food waste in a domestic wheelie bin with the lid firmly closed and remove possible sources of other food such as compost heap scraps. As well as human food waste, beware those four-legged messy eaters that you share your home with – dogs and cats
        should be fed indoors and any dog bones, catnip toys, etc. should be brought indoors at the end of the day.

        If you are worried about the safety of your pets, don’t fret too much. It is quite rare for a fox to attack a cat and even rarer for it to take on a dog. When it comes to smaller pets such as rabbits, they are usually quite safe as long as their hutch is secured. We would suggest taking extra precautions in late spring/early summer when foxes are rearing their cubs – build a sturdy secondary cage around a thoroughly secure hutch or simply move the hutch inside a secure garage or shed - or take it into the home if you are really worried.

        One of the main fox-related issues has got to be their awful mating call. Resembling a screaming child, the sound can be quite disturbing – especially if it wakes you in the middle of the night. Unfortunately, this can usually be heard from quite a distance so, even if your garden is not the chosen romantic setting for your local randy foxes, you’ll probably still hear the ‘romance’.

        Territory marking is another stinker of a side-effect of having resident foxes – the smell often undetectable until it’s disturbed during a spot of gardening or seeked out by your pets. Dogs, in particular, will roll in it to try and counter it with their own scent.

        Foxes are known for their patience and cunning, so play them at their own game. Once you are confident that you have removed all forms of temptation, walk the perimeter of your garden and secure it completely – fix holes in the fence and make it hard for foxes to use your garden as a passageway to local parkland, woods, etc. If your garden is part of their everyday routine, they will come to view it as their own territory – and so the scent-marking.
        If all else fails, or you just want to deter them a bit quicker, visit your nearest pet store or garden centre and enquire about animal repellents – there are many varieties on the market, including tiger urine.
         
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          Nothing whatsoever to worry about. Cats have one fear. Getting injured. To avoid this, they will either run or attack. Whichever they think is most suited to the occasion.

          Even if it does attack her, the fox will invariably come off worst. I speak from experience. Back when I had cats, a fox entered the garden, and the older (a female) saw it and defended her territory. It never returned...:snork:
           
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            and can I just say from experience that the fox urine smells worse then 10 cats urine put together and left to rot for one month...(:biggrin: sorry guys! :eeew::eeew::eeew:)
             
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              Thank you all for the advice. A large part of the problem is a family at the back put out food for the foxes - I often wake up to discarded containers, children's toys and even used nappies shredded up in my garden (so they're obviously not deterred by the urine). The young fox often comes and sits in the middle of the lawn during the day and is not at all bothered if I try to chase it away grrrr.
              I suppose my worry for my cat is compounded by the fact that she's a rescue cat and was with the RSPCA for 4 months before she was fit to be put up to be rehomed. She had been severely traumatised by a fight with another animal, but they didn't know what, which left her so withdrawn that her previous owners gave her up. She is fine indoors with me now....rules over me....but is very nervous when venturing outside.
               
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                Good morning @JJ28 my friend I have foxes in the garden and lots of cats both sides of me,but I can understand your concern and sympathise with you,this is one of them who in return for an occasional egg keeps all other foxes away as it is his territory,this month July is the worst for their behaviour and it will calm down:smile:

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                  Oh my word Wise Old Owl - I hope you used a zoom lens for that photo.
                   
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                    Good afternoon @JJ28 I'm afraid the Foxes don't like anything that is aimed at them :heehee:so it was just a 70mm lens on my Cannon 600D from about 6 feet:smile:

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                      [​IMG] Sorted ;)
                       
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