Solved Fragrant in April - Skimmia Japonica

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    Would like to have more of this. Flowers briefly at this time of year and smells just heavenly. Some kind of viburnum, or...? GC-id1.jpg
     
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        Silver, how can you tell it's a male? I can't see its tackle...:heehee: No, seriously. How can you tell?

        I like your identification. Skimmia japonica fragrans going once, going twice...

        Who decides we've solved it? :new:
         
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        Skimmia japonica fragrans. Is always male.
        Others are female...some are both....male and female.
        I cannot actually see enough detail in your pic to be 100% sure ...hence the possibly!
         
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          If you want something to really fill the garden with scent in April, MrsK, try Osmanthus Burkwoodii, as it's gorgeous scent will travel yards and yards on a warm day!!:yes::hapydancsmil:
           
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            Osmanthus burkwoodii also resembles my plant, although mine has smaller flowers in each cluster.
             
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            To honest, MrsK, it ain't!!:dunno::snork: The Osmanthus will grow to 4 to 5 feet in height and width has quite small dark green shiny leaves plus the flowers are small and tubular......and this is my Osmanthus:snork:

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            Whereas a Skimmia has flowers like this, the plant is quite and the leaves are bigger and longer, will only get to a height of 3'. Has flowers like your Skimmia like this:
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            and is described by the RHS like this

            Skimmia are compact evergreen shrubs with simple, aromatic leaves and terminal panicles of small white or yellowish flowers followed, on fertilised female plants, by shiny red berries; most have male and female flowers on separate plants



            'Rubella' is a small, bushy evergreen shrub with dark green, elliptic leaves to 10cm long. Panicles of red buds, showy in late winter, open to fragrant white flowers in early spring
             
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              Wow, Armandii... your Osmanthus is a thing to behold! The way you've elevated it is very attractive. If that is perfuming the air it must be just divine to sit near.

              Now see, this is why I need you, people. Ran an image search on that well-known search engine and the first image to come up as a result is:
               

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              It looks nothing like the image of the Skimmia you posted for me -- which is a pretty good match for my plant. My search term for the above image was 'Osmanthus burkwoodii'. :what:

              I love that word panicles. What is the Rubella - Another Skimmia?
               
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              Hi MrsK!!:snork: Yep, Rubella is another variety and there are a few others.

              Skimmia Japonica [Male and Female]
              Skimmia Japonica "Chameleon"
              Skimmia Japonica "Dwarf Femal and Dwarf Male"
              Skimmia Japonica "Keesen"
              Skimmia Japonica "Kew White"
              Skimmia Japonica "Luwian"
              Skimmia Japonica "Magic Marlot"
              Skimmia Japonica "Marlot"
              Skimmia Japonica "Reevesiana"
              Skimmia Japonica "Rubinetta"

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              [​IMG] ?? Sarcocca hookeriana ??
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                I don't think so, Jenny. Having looked at MrsK's great pic of the plant I still agree with Silver Surfer that it is a Skimmia.

                This is Osmanthus delavayi

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                Although there doesn't seem to be much difference to Burkwoodii there is and you would spot it if you had both plants in from of you.

                I look forward to it flowering every year and it's a slow grower so it's not rampaging all over the border. It's squeezed between a Garrya "James Roofe" and a Pampas "Sunningdale Silver" but seems pretty happy there. It's also near my Arbour where I sit with a mug of tea and Jenny the Cat. On the other side of the Arbour within 6' is a Choisya "Sundance" which flowers later than the Osmanthus but still in time for them both to be in flower together. So the other day when it was sunny and warm I got wrapped in both scents while sitting in the Arbour so that really was Divine!!!:love30::yes::hapfeet::hapydancsmil:

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                  Maybe it's because the flowers are white but your Osmanthus looks to be almost more flower than leaf in that shot. Wonderful. :dbgrtmb: My Skimmis was misplaced, under a flowering broom that has gone; Skimmis is now stooped to peek out from under... nothing at all. Any hope of reshaping it for more vertical development? I'll put another photo up today to illustrate.
                   
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                  You can usually take it as a foregone conclusion that if Silver Surfer says what it is, then that's pretty certainly what it is. :heehee: She's almost never wrong. :love30:



                  Sarcococca have a lovely fragrance that seems out of proportion to the small size of the flower but it flowers in winter and has usually finished by now.
                   
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                    From its north and then from its south side:
                    Skimmia j1.jpg Skimmi j2.jpg
                    and there are a couple of nice Pieris that are similarly contorted by former neighbours. :help:
                     
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