Fuel Protests.

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  1. Pro Gard

    Pro Gard Gardener

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    Will anyone else be atending?

    For details of the nearest protest:

    http://www.transaction-2007.com

    About time we stand up to the current shower of criminals we have in goverment.
     
  2. cajary

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    Err! Checked that. Couldn't see what they're protesting about. ProG, is it the price? Excuse me, I'm a "bear of little brain" :confused:
     
  3. Pro Gard

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    Not specificly the price of fuel but the goverment tax on it.

    A lot of hauliers operate on fixed term contracts and they are now getting absolutly hammered by the current fuel price. Not to mention small businesses and farmers etc.

    My business alone uses around 7- 10 litres of petrol a week and around �£50 a week of derv (more in the summer), small fry but adds up when you multiply it especially with fuel at �£1.10 a litre derv and riseing.
     
  4. cajary

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    Yeah. Got you now. The tax on everything. Tobbaco, booze, petrol. Nobody complains about the tax on ciggies and booze, what's the problem about the tax on petrol? :confused:
     
  5. cajary

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    Well, you're stil on site, do I get an answere?
     
  6. cajary

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    Obviously not! Night, Night. (now you can reply) [​IMG]
     
  7. Helofadigger

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    Well it doesn't really matter if there's a protest on fuel or not after all nothing was gained in the past the government didn't give in and the taxes remained high.

    The only think that was gained with the big one back in 2000 was to make life a misery for the most of the UK with panic buying in the shops etc. if this was to happen once again I still don't think the government would back down.

    Gordon Brown is doing such a fine job at messing things up as it is and what's another c*ck-up to add to his list!
    Helen.xxx.
     
  8. walnut

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    We are the most taxed country in the world I purchased 3 calenders from the USofA they were �£9 each plus postage(portrait standard pictures )had to pay �£12.50 to H M customs the robbing gits if they had come in via europe I would have had to pay vat on them, they have you by the short and curlys.No I will not be on the demo don't need fuel with my mode of transport.
     
  9. accidentalgardener

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    Walnut,

    You've given me an idea there, IF joe public refused to use their vehicular transport and hence didn't buy petrol/diesel AND couldn't get to work (remember the train strikes a few years back, the country would grind to a halt.

    Probably naive of me but i think if the sheep stopped co-operating with the shepherd they might just have to take notice.

    Naive as I have said but that what I think anway :D
     
  10. Pro Gard

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    Soory cajary, I dont often bother to log out before turning my computer off and was actually in bed!

    The issue is not the tax but the dissproportionate level of the tax coupled of course with the rise in oil prices.

    Without getting into a debate about the stability in the midle east post invasion largly the oil price is not the goverments fault but the tax level is. What would help out the transport industry would be a tempoary reduction in the amount of tax this would ofset the high price of crude.
     
  11. Pro Gard

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    Accidental, I agree a national strike would make the goverment listen however unlike some european countrys eg France and Italy we rarely have protests and simply take every cripiling tax and stupid law the goverment pass.
     
  12. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I think the tax situation on fuel would be easier to put up with if there was a set amount of tax per litre rather than this percentage lark.
    Trouble is there is no incentive for the government to pressurise the oil companies into keeping prices down, as they benefit greatly, ever time the price of oil goes up.

    Having said that, I think any protest in this democratic country is pointless, they will do as they like as they were elected by us.
    All that will happen is it will mess up everyones Christmas, and cause a lot of bad feeling.
    I think I could go along with the idea of a few one day general strikes though, but how could it be organised these days, and it would have to be for the benefit of all, not just the hauliers.
     
  13. Sarraceniac

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    Pete. This is unbelievable. We agree on something political. A fixed fuel tax makes complete sense. Which is why they won't do it. The problem is that if fuel goes up by �£1 without tax, it goes up by �£3 with tax. And if fuel goes up substantially then so does everything else, because it's all transported.
     
  14. Pro Gard

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    John, I also agree.

    Must be a forum record, a political consesnsus!
     
  15. daitheplant

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    There can only be one form of protest, and that is at the ballot box at the next election whether local or general.
     
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