Gas, ovens and fitting.

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  1. Rustler

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    Good evening people.
    One needs to replace a gas hob and electric oven with a full gas, hob/cooker.( all in one). Now I obviously need a certified (not a nutter) qualified gas geezer to do de-installation and reconnect. However, I need to cut out a section of work top to accommodate all in one unit. I reckon I can do that pretty quickly with a jigsaw but will gas blokey person be ok with this? Any ideas on charges? It's a council property so should we get the council involved?
    Cheers, Russ.
     
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    That's exactly what I did for two of my friends: cut out the worktops in readiness for installation of built-in gas hob/ovens.

    So long as there is sufficient clearance behind the unit to accommodate pipes/hoses, the gas man will work to your layout.

    Make sure you watch him check for sturdiness of the installation, check for leaks with a pressure gauge and do an ignition and a burn test. The job's not done until he clears up after himself so watch for that as well.

    As for price, I paid mates rates of approx. £10 (petrol money), cups of tea and doughnuts.

    Generally, unless you are really needy (ie elderly/frail), the council will not help or will be reluctant to help.
     
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    Good morning @Rustler my friend all councils are different,give them a ring yours might be able to help and advise:smile:
     
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    If you're buying a new gas cooker then the shop should be able to do the installation. If you're buying secondhand then you should make sure that it has been checked and certified by a registered gas fitter.

    I don't think there are any regulations about the worktops as long as they're not overhanging the cooker and, as misterQ says, there's sufficient clearance at the back. The Council may have something to say about the worktop being cut out if they own it. It would be best to check with them. Maybe just tell them that you want to install a freestanding gas cooker and need to remove a bit of the worktop in order to fit it in. The other option is not to bother to tell them if you intend staying there a long time - just make sure you have a good finish on the cut edges (edging strips of laminate are easy to get).

    When they install it you need to check that they have levelled it properly. Most (or all) gas cookers have adjustable feet.
     
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    I did the same Russ, cut out the worktop for our new Gas Hob then got a "GasSafe" fitter in to come and do the connection. He was very good and helped get the hob fitted securely, the supplied fittings were flimsy so the gas fitter bedded it all in with silicon and it's been very solid ever since. He also had to run a new supply pipe from our meter to the hob, about a 10m run, he charged about £120 from memory which I thought was very reasonable.
     
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      Thanks for the input, people. Will be here for the foreseeable future so modifying shouldn't be a problem. Will look further into this. I would be competent (I feel ) to do the job myself but not having the qualifications would make it illegal I guess. Cheers.
       
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      It would only be illegal to make the gas connection yourself Rustler, but for the worktop cutting out you can certainly do that yourself.
       
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        On our cooker the gas line is just a reinforced rubber hose with a bayonet style connector at each end. There are valves on the hose itself and on the outlet at the wall, such that if the pipe is disconnected at either end, the gas still can't escape. Ie the valves are opened automatically by connecting things on, and closed automatically on disconnect. This all means it is a super easy dig job. Literally just push the hose on, then twist to lock.

        When I changed our cooker, I was advised (independently) to buy a brand new connector hose, as the seals at each end can fail over time. The new hose was about a tenner if I remember right.
         
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        Has youve all ready got a gas supply all the gas fitter will have to do is fit a gas cooker bayonet on to the gas line, he should do a drop test first on the in coming gas supply, he will all so have to fit a safety chain so it can't be pulled over.
        I would notify your council
         
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        Most diy stores sell the hoses and if I remember the valve bit it fits into as well
         
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        Yes they do but he isn't allowed to cut that gas pipe.
         
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