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Gosport hospital deaths

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by redstar, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. redstar

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  2. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Yeah kind of a joke really, but not funny.:frown:

    Only yesterday, they, the British Government, were doing their usual half hearted dithering about legalising cannabis oil for medical reasons.
    But we had crazy doctors bumping people off with opium based drugs twenty years ago.

    Really dont understand what is going on.
    Especially when the government still claim the moral high ground regarding assisted suicide in extreme cases.

    Still smacks of a gutless running of a country as far as I'm concerned, we dont have one politician that is worth his/ her job.
    All far too scared to say or do what they really think.
     
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    • Jiffy

      Jiffy The Match is on Fire

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      To many power people, not enough policing, to many cover up's

      Yep, that's Great Britain but not so Great

      As my signature says
       
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      • JWK

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        There are too many managers and too much bureaucracy in the NHS, it's jobs for life and a gravy train once you're in the gang. When something goes wrong they close ranks and don't want to listen, I'm sure the dedicated nurses would have noticed this at the time but would have been worried about losing their jobs reporting a rogue doctor.
         
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        • Jiffy

          Jiffy The Match is on Fire

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          Not just the NHS, all parts of life :sad: you can't trust any one no more :mad::sad:
           
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          • Freddy

            Freddy Miserable git, well known for it

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            I’m pretty sure my dad was ‘helped along’. I visited him in hospital (as I did every day) to find he had a ‘driver’. He died overnight. His condition was terminal though, so in this regard I have no strong opinion.
             
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            • pete

              pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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              Same with my Mum, into Hospice one evening, had a drug pump attached.
              Died 24 hours later.
              Again she was terminal, and probably for the best, without the drugs the end would have been pretty bad.
               
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                Corporate manslaughter is rife in the Nhs. Many of the so called "angels" are complicite in this and saying you were just following orders is no excuse for murder.

                The scandals that haunt the NHS
                Dr Harold Shipman - Responsible for killing at least 215 patients over a 25-year period from the mid 1970s. Many were elderly women who died after he injected them with lethal doses of diamorphine.

                Stafford Hospital - Criticised for causing suffering to hundreds of patients during the late 2000s. Trust in charge of hospital later placed into administration.

                Bristol heart deaths - Thirty-five babies died and dozens more left brain-damaged by poor practices identified at child heart surgery unit between 1991 and 1995

                Morecambe Bay - An inquiry said a "lethal mix" of failures in maternity care led to the deaths of 11 babies and a mother over nine years.

                Gosport War Memorial Hospital - Independent panel found there was a "disregard for human life" at hospital where inappropriate use of strong painkillers linked to the deaths of over 450 people.
                 
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                • Freddy

                  Freddy Miserable git, well known for it

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                  I’m not in any way condoning malpractice, but for a bit of balance, the NHS probably save thousands of lives every day. Indeed, they probably saved mine today.
                   
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                    You are OK, I hope @Freddy?

                    I can only echo your sentiments - if it were not for the huge amount of care, some of which was very specialised indeed, that I have had from the NHS this year I definitely would not be here.
                     
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                    • Kandy

                      Kandy Will be glad to see the sun again soon.....

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                      My late father in law was at the end of his life nearly three years ago and we all sat with him for most of the day in the hospital in a side room but myself and Mr Kandy had to leave as it was getting late and Mr Kandys niece wanted a lift back to her parents home to pick up her car to drive back to her home as her hubby was due home after a long day of lorry driving.

                      So Mr Kandys sister and brother in law stayed with my father in law and not long after we had left a nurse came into the room and administered Morphine and a muscle relaxant (not sure what order it was given in) but within a short time he was gone.:sad:

                      He was nearly 96 so had had a good innings and as he had sepsis so we found out later he wasn’t going to survive very long as his body was packing up but it has made me wonder if the combination of those two drugs ended his life a bit sooner than nature would have intended so nothing surprises me about what has gone on at other hospitals in the past:sad:

                      As an aside it never fails to amaze me that many people are not allowed to end their own lives with the help of either relatives or Dr’s when they have an incuarable disease so have to go to Dignitas( sp) for help but there are all these patients who wanted to live longer was given a push into the next life by so called caring people:sad:
                       
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                      • shiney

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                        My father was in hospital totally unable to do anything for himself and in constant very bad pain. He sorted out all his affairs (I got a lawyer to come into the hospital to do the paperwork) and asked the staff to let him go as quickly as possible. They, naturally, refused - but he was gone within 24 hours :whistle:

                        No complaints from any of the family and it was a blessing that he was out of pain.

                        Murderous nutters like Shipman are a different matter.
                         
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