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  1. Clematis

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    Any Help Gratefully Received. I have recently moved and have acquired a number of roses. I have not dealt with roses before but they really don't look good to me (people before were not gardeners). I have attached photos (I hope) and I really hope someone can tell me what I should be doing with these plants. It may be that I need to start again but please try to help. Thankyou
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    Oops - sorry about the underwear on the washing line in picture 2.!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    :thumb: Hi Clematis, they look to me, like they all need a good prune feed & spray..!;)

    This is the wrong time of year to prune, but you could tidy them up a bit.. I prune arpound November & February.. Here is a link to RHS for pruning..;):thumb:
    http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profiles0201/rose_pruning.asp

    In the last pic your rose is suffering badley from Black spot on the leaves.. Nothing too serious & very common. You can spray for that.. Here is a link that will tell you what to do..
    http://www.rhs.org.uk/Advice/profiles0600/black_spot.asp
    I use rose clear..

    For feed I mulch in the winter with either well rotted manure or my compost.. During the year I use J Arther Bowers food...:thumb:

    :) I hope that is some help Clematis.. I expect someone with more knowledge than me will be on later....:thumb::D
     
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    Hi Clematis1. The first one(Climber) I would leave for now and prune when Marley
    has suggested(looks like its needs a good feed after you have pruned it.
    2. The 2nd one the (Standard )I would just trim down to the first lot of leaves and then prune in the Winter months.3.The 3rd one i would leave for now and then prune at the same time you prune your other Roses.4.
    The 4th Rose I would carefully remove all the Infected leaves and Especially the Ones on the around around the base of the Rose and and then spray It won,t look very becoming but the Rose blooms will make up for that Please DO NOT PUT THE INFECTED LEAVES ON YOUR COMPOST OR ANYWHERE IN THE GARDEN ,:thumb:Use the BB method Bin or Burn them:D

    There,s two Main Reasons why we Prune our Roses 1. To take out old and deseased
    Wood and encourage new flowering shoots to grow.2.To keep the Rose in a good shape and with an open centre that lets in Light and Air
     
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    Thank you very much Marley and Woo.
    Is Roseclear a good thing to use and what do you recommend as a feed for the climber - and can I use the same feed on the others?
    I'm sure I will be back to you with more questions as time goes on, but I do really appreciate the help.
     
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    Hi Clematis If your not going down the Organic road Roseclear 3 is OK
    I usually feed my Roses Twice a year (Spring and Summer) but others have their own methods but this works for me,and don,t forget only water your roses at the base and try not to drench the leaves thats what encourages diseases.Good luck:thumb::)
     
  7. Marley Farley

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    :thumb: Well personally I use rose clear because I couldn't find another one at the time & have used it ever since with good results.. There are other sprays as well. I don't know of an organic spray. Some say to spray with baking soda, which I tried, but you have to do it almost daily &after rain, even then it didn't work.. So that is how I ended up with the Rose clear. Here is a link for different kinds, or go to your local GCentre
    http://www.plantmenow.co.uk/acatalo...d=rose clear&gclid=CKis_Kbx5ZQCFRsoEAod9HfWSw

    This is a link for the food I use during the year.. Again go to your local GC
    http://www.crocus.co.uk/product/_/t.../j.a-bowers-rose-food-3kg/classid.1000000531/
     
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    The reason I chose the Organic Road and don,t use Roseclear and other sprays is because they contain amongst other Pestesides BIFENTHRIN AND MYCLOBUTANIL which kills insects Ect by attacking the nervous system and it can cause damage to to the eyes,I certainly would,nt want any in my eyes on a windy day or in my four legged friends eyes,plus it can be very Toxic to Fish and pondlife,They have withdrawn it on several occasions but all they do is replace the old chemicals with new ones which work the same but it gets round the law.Iwould never go round flying an Organic Banner :D:)Each to their own ,I just felt I should explain why I chose this route.Cheers:thumb::)
     
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    :thumb: I understand your fears there Woo, :o Now it's my turn to explain... :D:D I only use any chemical when really necessary.. I did try the organic route, but found my roses got more & more unhealthy & no leaves to spray..!! Even with the soda..!! I only have the 4 bushes now. They are well away from the pond, & when I spray I make sure the pets are all away too... :rolleyes: I know this may sound stupid but I actually cover the bushes until the rose clear has dried in an effort to eliminate killing any more bugs than I can help... I don't want to kill the good ones off. I don't use any chemicals in my garden if I can help, but it seams that if I don't here, I don't sort of, win the black spot battle if I don't.!:(:D
     
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    :thumb:Hi Marley I do exactly the same I cover mine up as well,and I have been known after a shower to wipe the rain drops offf the leaves:D and If I am showing any Blooms I cover them with little Bags:)
     
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    Right - I'm off now with my secateurs. Wish me Luck!!!!
    Covers for leaves - Bags for blooms - what have I got myself into!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thanks to all who helped - I'll be back!
     
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    Woo-I wash off the aphids with a fine spray blast of my hosepipe but havent wipped them down afterwards. I always do it after the sun has gone off to avoid burns, I am certainly nowhere near showing level ( although I do secretly want to), is this fine? I do occaionally have damaged flowers after rain and sometimes even the morning dew can blow one, but I cover the actual flower head when I blast-should there be something more, or is there another less damaging way to wash them off? Soapy spray?
     
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    :thumb: I think roses are such beautiful flowers, yet so hard to produce that perfect bloom.... Seems we all struggle in one way or another..! :) I know roses were introduced into Europe in the 17th century from China where they had been growing them for nearly 5000 years..! So, however did they manage in those times for pests & diseases..!! We know they grew fantastic flowers when they didn't have all the gizmos, powders & sprays that we have.. I have often wondered how they did it..!! Most of our roses today can be traced back to those Chines roses... Our breeders in those early days set the course of our roses today... ;):)
     
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