Holly Reversion ?

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  1. pamsdish

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    It was a beautiful winters day so i went for a walk to a nearby park, i havent been to that park before ,as most of you know i moved house just a year ago.
    Any way either side of the gate was a holly tree ,it was the type with cream edges on the leaves ilex argentea ,i think, and where the tree had been pruned ,new growth was spurting ,all the leaves were cream ,no green at all , if a variagated species reverts they usually go back to green ,so why is this is it diseased glttree
     
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    I've seen that some hedges do that too:scratch:

    Will be interesting to see what answers you get as it's put me off buying varigated bushes just incase it happens
     
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    well ive pulled a sprig off and pushed it into a pot with another holly just in case its something interesting xmastree
     
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    Actually Pam, ALL variegated plants are diseased. Variegation is caused by a virus.:gnthb:
     
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    Well I never, You learn something new everyday Dai. Well I did, you already knew.:scratch: 02
     
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    That variegated plants have a viral infection? Yes I did.:gnthb:
     
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    One of my ivy`s has done the same thing-it is a dark green with an acid yellow-I have a branch that is entirely acid yellow, I qute like it-I`d take a cutting of it if I could rely on it staying true but it won`t. Yours won`t either, but at least you get a holly out of it Pam

    The "normal" version

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    and the wholly acid yellow branch can see the at the bottom. sorry if it seems obvious.

    Aren`t ivy`s beautiful-it will stay like that ALL year through. A true stunner.
     
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    Very nice:) I have one similar but more a yellow tinge.
     
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    Do you really????? How about a cuttings swap Pal? I always like to fill out my ivy collection.
     
  10. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I'm not sure its caused by a virus, but I do know that if you take cuttings from entirely yellow parts they are unlikely to grow.
    Holly or the Ivy(trying to be seasonal):D

    They dont have enough chlorophyll to grow, on their own, without some of the green bits.

    If anyone wants varigated, (or otherwise) ivy, I have tons of the stuff, a devil to get going and a devil to get rid of.:D
     
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    It is most definitely caused by a virus Pete.
     
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    Or so I was taught.:thumb:
     
  13. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    So, David, why is not every Ivy / Holly in the world not infected by now.

    And also, I once found a varigated sycamore seedling that I grew on and grafted onto an ordinary green leaved plant.

    I agree that some varigation is caused by virus, others are probably genetic or sports.

    I'm now talking about something I'm not really well up on, so I shall stop.:D
     
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    I am under the impression that it is caused by mutation-maybe a virus causes the mutation-I don`t know.

    I will say however, that I have propagated the variegated ivy many times and it hasn`t given me one failure yet. Slow growing yes, but easy to propagate.
     
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    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I'm not saying it wont grow in the varigated form, from cuttings Claire.

    Just that when a varigated plant under stress puts up totally yellow leaves its unlikely that it will grow on like that.

    If it does let me know, and I'll be round to get a plant from you.:yho:
     
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