How do you deal with Spider Mite

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  1. Adam D

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    Recently bought two new plants didn't realise they were covered in what looks like red little spiders.

    I notice leaves covered in spots and at first thought it was fungus until I started to check underneath the leafs how do you get rid of them my bug killer isn't working on them and worst of all they have spread to other plants.
     
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    Not the best pic but they are fast little buggers.
     

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    I've had problems with them for years.
    Firstly, are they very small, there is a bright red insect that is larger and often mistaken for RSM.

    I found one insecticide that worked, but now you cant get it anymore.
    Anything containing Abamectin, or Ivermectin works.
    Not easy to get hold of though.

    I've tried all the so called methods, like humid atmosphere etc. but its mostly balony IMO.
    I even get them on garden plants.

    Tried predators, but they are very expensive, take a while to work, and rarely eradicate the RSM entirely, so you need to introduce them at intervals through the summer, £££££££.

    I'm now using some stuff given to me by a commercial fruit grower.
    One spray lasts all summer.
     
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    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Should have said, its a mite, and as such needs something specific to mites.
    I think there are sprays for birds, that might work, but not sure on how they would affect plants.
     
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    This is the damage.
     

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    Hi Adam, here's some advice on how to get rid of them but they are difficult to control when there's an infestation:gaah:





    Red spider mites can be one of two kinds of mites
    What is a Red Spider Mite?f mites, either the European red spider mite or the Southern red spider mite. The most common red spider mite is the Southern variety. The European spider mite is normally only seen on apple trees, while the Southern spider mite attacks a much wider variety of plants.

    A spider mite is related to spiders and is an arachnid, but are smaller and have only one body section (where spiders have two).


    Identifying Red Spider Mites
    A plant that is infested by red spider mites will start to look unhealthy and will have a dusty appearance to the undersides of their leaves. Close inspection will reveal that the dust is actually moving and is in fact the spider mites. The plant may also have some webbing on the underside or on the branches of plant.

    You cannot easily make out the details of red spider mites with the naked eye but a simple magnifying glass can make the details more visible. A red spider mite will be all red. There are other kinds of spider mites, such as the two-spotted spider mite, that are partially red. Red spider mites will be all red. Knocking some off onto a piece of white paper will make it easier to distinguish the colors.


    How to Control Red Spider Mites
    Red spider mites are most active in cool weather, so you are most likely to see an infestation of them in the spring or fall.

    The best way to control red spider mites is through the use of their natural predators. Lacewings andladybugs are commonly used, but predatory mites can also be used. All of these spider mite predators are available from reputable gardening supply centers and websites.

    You can also use pesticides to eliminate red spider mites. Insecticidal soaps and oils work best. You should be careful using pesticides though as they will also kill their natural predators and the red spider mites may simply move from the pesticide treated area to non-treated areas.

    Of course, the best way to eliminate red spider mites is to make sure you don’t get them in the fist place. Work to keep plants healthy and the areas around the plants free of debris and dust to keep red spider mites away. Also, make sure plants have enough water. The water will help keep the red spider mites away as they prefer very dry environments.


    Or you can try this insecticide recipe for Soft Soap which should do the trick, Adam. One spray of any insecticide will not do the trick though as red mites are tough but if you start a long term campaign you will succeed.

    Here’s a simple recipe for making your own homemade insecticidal soap using ordinary household ingredients.

    Homemade Insecticidal Soap Recipe
    The simplest insecticidal soap is nothing more than a 2% soap solution. To make this at home, you will need:

    • Sprayer: Any clean spray bottle or garden sprayer will work fine for spraying insecticidal soap. Make sure the sprayer or bottle hasn’t been used for herbicides.
    • Pure Soap: Use a pure liquid soap, such as Castile, or all-natural soap. The active ingredient in insecticidal soap comes from the fatty acids in animal fat or vegetable oil, so it’s important to use the real thing. Don’t use detergents (which aren’t actually soaps), dish soaps, or any products with degreasers, skin moisturizers, or synthetic chemicals. Dr. Bronner’s Pure Castile Soap is usually pretty easy to find in stores, or check your local natural-foods store for other options.
    • Pure Water: Tap water is fine for making insecticidal soap. If you have hard water, you may want to use bottled water to prevent soap scum from building up on your plants.
    To make homemade 2% insecticidal soap, mix together:
    • 5 tablespoons soap to 1 gallon of water
    OR

    • 1 heavy tablespoon soap to 1 quart of water

    Other ingredients that can be added to homemade insecticidal soap

    Homemade Insecticidal Soap Recipe Variations
    Like any other home remedy, there are as many variations on this recipe as there are gardeners! You can also try:

    • Diluted Solution: If the spray causes damage or burns your plant foliage, cut the amount of soap in half and try a 1% solution. This is the concentration usually found in commercial sprays. The lighter solution might be less effective but is gentler on plants.
    • Cooking Oil: To help the solution stick a little longer, add two tablespoons of light cooking oil (such as corn, canola, olive, or safflower) per gallon of water to the mix.
    • Vinegar: To make a spray that also targets powdery mildew, add a teaspoon of cider vinegar per gallon of water to the mix.
    • Garlic or Pepper: To help repel chewing insects, add a teaspoon of ground red pepper and/or garlic per gallon of water to the mix.
    • Bar Soap: For a less-exact recipe, drop a bar of pure soap (such as organic bar soap or Ivory) into a gallon of water and leave it overnight. Remove the bar and shake well before spraying.






     
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      I'm not too sure that you have RSM. You make no mention of what looks like spiders webbing and RSM are really tiny and rarely move fast.
      On the first plant I would wipe the foliage off with a sponge dipped in soapy water once or twice a day. Isolate infected plants, keep them outdoors and raise humidity as much as possible.
       
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        Dont look like RSM to me.
        RSM usually shows up as a mottled yellowing of the leaves and webbing later in the season
         
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          As others have said probably not red spider mite it's more likley you have something else and that mite is controlling it for you... Predatory mites are usually large and fast moving

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            I'm going to try neem oil first.

            These are definetly not spider mite then they are to big pinhead size all my plants are in containers they treat the rims like a racetrack.

            They remind me of when I was a kid there were these little red spider bugs if you squashed them with your fingers you get a smear of blood red.
             
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              That's interesting mate so these could be good guys so need to have a looksie again.
               
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                Come to think of it the two plants that I bought that had this big red mite on it there is no leaf spots on them so it can't be these doing the damage but instead jumped onto the infected plant buy the way these two infected and two bought plants are all Buddlieas.
                 
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                  Ive used neem oil when I've had too,always worked for me :)
                   
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                  Apparently the bug killer i use should kill the mite so I'm lost.
                   
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