How to stop my fence from slipping down the slope behind my garden?

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  1. tomkilbourn

    tomkilbourn Apprentice Gardener

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    Hello everyone, this is my first post here!

    I have a problem with some land slipping behind my fence in the corner of the garden.

    Basically, around 10 years ago some new houses were built behind mine which are about 15 feet lower than my house. The builders used heavy diggers to create quite a steep back garden for these new houses and they took the diggers right up to the fence. So, just inches behind by fence is a good 10 foot steep slope down to the new houses - and I have two panels which are slipping there too. It isnt the owners of the houses fault, but I need to get it sorted if I can.

    The panels were put in around 3 years ago using cement and are the concrete post type of fence were you can lift the panel straight out, but the concrete is comming up too from the ground.

    What would be the best way to stop the fence from slipping and stopping any more land going "south" from my garden? I am a total novice gardener, so I am unsure what plants (if any) would help to "root" the soil and bind it together, along with some more concrete?

    Any ideas good be greatfully appreciated!

    Cheers,

    Tom:D
     
  2. JWK

    JWK Gardener Staff Member

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    It's difficult to picture what is the problem, a photo would help. Obviously you need to stabilise the land behind the fence, but who owns the land behind the fence?
     
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    Hi Tom... [​IMG] Well as John say some photos would help.... :scratch: Sounds like this could mean a few of you getting together & speaking to the developers, that might bring something.. Otherwise contact your council & get some legal advice I think Tom... They should not have dug that out without putting a retaining wall, or support for the higher ground of some kind in, in the first place, I would have thought...... Check with your council that they were not supposed to have done that originally before building works started.... So get some photos up too... :thumb:
     
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    It might be different in England, but as I understand things in Scotland, the person who alters the land heights between two properties is responsible for providing a retaining system to prevent land slippage.
    Do let us know how you get on.
     
  5. tomkilbourn

    tomkilbourn Apprentice Gardener

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    Hello everyone, and thankyou for your replies.

    I think the council may need to be contacted, as there was no retaining wall put in place. The builders were a local firm called Watkin Jones, but what power would the local council have in regards to the situation? Could the council force the builders to come back all these years later and install a retaining wall? Or would it have to involve solicitors between myself and the builders?

    I will try to take a photo asap.

    Thanks :)
     
  6. has bean counter

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    The development would have been subject to the requirements of your council's Building Control department and the development would have been monitored and inspected by them. Take some photos and visit them first thing. Don't be fobbed-off and demand to see the file. Search on the Council's website for the planning application and you will see the approval conditions.

    Good luck
     
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    All the advice given so far is correct. You need to check what provisions were made in the plans to cope with this situation. Planning should have insisted on some provision in the plans and Building Control should have enforced them. Even if Planning made a mistake and didn't make sure that provision was made Building control has the responsibility to see that everything is done safely during the construction work.

    The first stop is to go to Planning, look at whether anything was said about support for the adjoining land and take it from there. Planning should want to be as helpful as possible - unless they made a mistake. Their reaction to your questions should be a bit of a clue unless you have a person who is born awkward.

    If the land should have been supported then, in the first instance, the Council are responsible but ultimately the neighbour is likely to be responsible. It would be the neighbour's job to ask for compensation from the developer and/or the Council.

    Of course, the Council could say that there was no need to shore up the ground and then you would need to get an independent expert to assess the situation. Don't give up because, from what I can make out from what you have said, the ground is crumbling away when it would not have done so if they hadn't dug it out.

    The fence posts and fence are not really the problem. It sounds as though the rear of your garden is starting to end up in next door's garden. Is it likely to stop?

    Once you have done your initial investigation with the Council you may want to get in touch with your insurance company.

    Good luck. :)
     
  8. loopy lou

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    you should be able to see the plans online - go to your councils website then onto planning portal, put in the name of the road etc and you should be able to see what was granted permissions

    if you need help then pm me with the road and i will have a look see

    loopy
     
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    It's going to be the Building Control plans that you need to see as Has Bean says. It's worth having a look on-line at the planning permission plans in case they do show retaining walls.
     
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