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I must own this rose! ID please

Discussion in 'Roses' started by Jungle Jane, Jul 4, 2016.

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  1. clueless1

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    Years ago, before I had any interest in gardening, I found a most beautiful, delightfully fragrant, stunning Rose that I really admired and wanted to take home.

    She worked as a barmaid in my favourite pub. Sadly for me, even my most powerful, smoothest lines were completely ineffective on her and I never got to take that Rose home with me.
     
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      Good morning I not only managed to take that Rose home ,I married her;)
       
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        Good afternoon @"M" my friend I took the liberty of asking a friend Emma from David Austin Roses:smile:

        Hi Woo thank you for your email and for sending us a photo. I think that this is one of the Rosa Rugosa's I hope that this helps and please don’t hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance.


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          Good morning my ID of this Rose is only my personal opinion and I will continue to post all all the information ie Emails,images,correspondence that I receive ;)
           
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              Sheal, Jul 19, 2016
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              Thanks Sheal ,

              This is a Rose that I've bought new this year and is definitely a Rosa Rugosa......

              WP_20160719_002.jpg

              PS... I agree with Woo, I've never seen or heard of a Dog Rose being any colour than White/Pale Pink.

              I have an excellent book that covers all the wild flowers of Britain and I'll try and photograph the relevant page to post on here tomorrow:)
               
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                Thank you, @wiseowl

                Did you also show her the thorns on this rose? I have a clearer picture of those now. As you may notice, they are completely different to the rugosa spines ...

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                Another thing which differs is the size of the rose (hence the thumb to give perspective) and the texture of the petals. This is my rugosa rose and the petals are almost "papery" in texture.

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                So, these are the differences (thorns and bloom size/texture) which suggest to me that the pink rose which popped up here is not a rugosa (as you may recall, I had 3 different types of rugosa in my previous garden, so I'm no stranger to them :heehee: )
                 
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                  I don't know if this is of any use, these are the clearest photos I could take......

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                  PS, the Rose at the bottom of the first picture is our other wild Rose, Rosa Arvensis, white flowers ( always cup shaped not flat like R. Canina ) and more rounded hips.
                   
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                    Just throwing a spanner in the works! Could someone along the way have crossed the two producing a hybrid? :)
                     
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                      Hi Sheal,

                      That's what I was starting to think :)
                       
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                            ning please don't let this rose become an obsession:heehee: I am still searching for two Roses from 50 years ago,so I know what I am talking about:lunapic 130165696578242 5: There are literally thousands of hybrid wild roses 100's of different species:smile:

                            I have tried but I must find the answer:whistle:

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                              Good afternoon @"M" my friend I have just received an email from Jane from Pounsley Plants

                              Dear Woo
                              The rose you describe and picture is Rosa rugosa Scabrosa.
                              An excellent and healthy variety as long as it is not in deep shade..
                              Jane Hollow Pounsley Plants

                              These are the 3 images I sent to her:smile:

                              @"M" thorns
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                              @JJ's

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                              Thank you, @wiseowl your efforts are very much appreciate.

                              I've gone back through my albums because I was fairly sure I had Scabrosa in my previous garden and these are the rugosa roses I had in my previous garden (taken 2013):-

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                              In the last one, the thorns are the typical spiney "rugosa" style thorns.

                              I took the liberty of looking up "Scabrosa" and I notice one of the distinguishing features are the flowers are described as "large" (up to 5" across).

                              My rose, which is being identified as a rugosa "Scabrosa", is much smaller (or, I have giant hands and no one has bothered to tell me :heehee: :oops: )

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