ID winter shrub?

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  1. Hornbeam

    Hornbeam Gardener

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    Can anyone ID this for me? I should know what it is, but I don't. It is a large winter flowering shrub and it is just coming into bloom now. Thanks [​IMG]

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  2. roders

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    Vibernum.........Not sure which one though.
     
  3. wiseowl

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    I,d say spot on roders,
    But can,t make my mind up?1.Juddii 2.Carlesii(Aurora) .This might help.
     
  4. Waco

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    I think the clue may be in the leaves, I have a pink one called "Dawn" which has very serated leaves and very strong perfume.
     
  5. Palustris

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    Viburnum as said, but if it is one of the V. x bodnantense it may well be V. b. Deben. This one opens pink but rapidly fades to pure white.
     
  6. Hornbeam

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    Many thanks. I've had this one ever since moving in, but never known what it was.
     
  7. geoffhandley

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    I would go with Viburnum bodnantense 'Dawn' It should flower on leafless stems but this year? The scent should be hyacinth like. Viburnum carlesii flowers later and the flower clusters are larger.
     
  8. Hornbeam

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    Thanks Geoff and all - I don't ever remember seeing it leafless. The old leaves are still on it, but so are fresh ones opening the same time as the flowers. Yes it is pleasantly scented. The only viburnums that I am familiar with are the summer flowering, autumn fruiting Guelder Rose and Wayfaring Tree. They are quite different in leaf form and so I never suspected that this shrub was related to them.
     
  9. jazid

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    Don't want to be the usual fly in the opintment but it doesn't look like 'Dawn' to me. That has rather more crinkly and matt leaves, has usually completely dropped them before it flowers, has tighter flower clusters, and most obviously has a distinctive upright habit that is impossible to miss. Doesn't look much like carlesii to me either but I've only known a few of those plants - I thought I remembered them flowering in the spring. Don't know about judii, sorry. Can't offer better options but will put thinking hat on later.
     
  10. Palustris

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    V. juddii has only a trace of pink in it and the flower cluster is more like a V. tinus. Also it flowers in April May, though the buds are on the shrub all winter.
    Dawn has dark purple anthers too.
     
  11. Hornbeam

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    Thanks guys. I'm just happy to know now that it is a viburnum.
     
  12. Palustris

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    THis is V. bod Dawn
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    You can just make out the purple anthers.
    This is V. bod Charles Lamont, you can see the yellow anthers.
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    Sadly V. bod Deben is still in tight bud, but a picture will be available when it opens.
    All three have still got a fair number of leaves on.
     
  13. jazid

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    red petioles and shoots should help as well, though not for me. I've been at the footy.
     
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