In Case Of Possible Heart Attack - serious

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      I must admit I would feel a little anxious to use that machine on somebody in a panic situation, I think I would probably want to undergo some training but if it can save somebodys life it must be worth it.
       
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      mrs al is manager of the local community centre, and deals with walks of life, the able bodied and not so able bodied, kids with disability and the elderly. she asked for 2 of these machines for the community centre and got them :blue thumb:

      she has (amongst other staff and volunteers) had training on how to use them as she did say although they are easy to use, training is beneficial.
       
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        Thank you for putting up this thread Mr Shiney. I KNOW I couldn't just stand and stare and now I know what it would be the best thing to do.
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        Yes, Penny, the advantage of that film is threefold. It shows you how to use the machine, how to do compressions and it takes away some of the unsureness that we all have.
         
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        I heard something recently about actually keeping yourself alive in the event of a heart attack when you're alone. The idea terrifies me to be honest, so I usually bury my head in the sand, but sometimes we have to pay attention I guess.

        Apparently, if I remember the detail correctly, in the early stages of the most common type of heart attack, the heart doesn't actually stop, it just loses its rhythm to the point that although still pumping blood, it isn't pumping anything like enough to sustain you. The ad said you then have something like 40 seconds before you pass out. The ad said, if you feel the signs (which to me sound like heartburn), you should take a deep breath in, then cough as hard as you can, breath out, then repeat. Apparently doing the cough with a lung full of air creates enough pressure to effectively do CPR on yourself, but the ad points out it is not as effective as proper CPR, so at best it will keep you going long enough to get to the nearest phone.

        In any case, all pretty terrifying stuff.
         
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        Clueless, I don't know where you saw the ad but it's considered to be a no no! It was in an email that started doing the rounds about 13 years ago. Although the procedure may possibly be of help it is only recommended under strict medical supervision.

        Without going into the details of the origin of it (incorrectly quoted by 'Mended Hearts') this is what all medical organisations say about it.

        Hundreds of people around the country have been receiving an e-mail message entitled "How to Survive a Heart Attack When Alone." This article recommends a procedure to survive a heart attack in which the victim is advised to repeatedly cough at regular intervals until help arrives.

        The source of information for this article was attributed to ViaHealth Rochester General Hospital. This article is being propagated on the Internet as individuals send it to friends and acquaintances - and then those recipients of the memo send it to their friends and acquaintances, and so on.

        We can find no record that an article even resembling this was produced by Rochester General Hospital within the last 20 years. Furthermore, the medical information listed in the article can not be verified by current medical literature and is in no way condoned by this hospital's medical staff. Also, both The Mended Hearts, Inc., a support organization for heart patients, and the American Heart Association have said that this information should not be forwarded or used by anyone. Please help us combat the proliferation of this misinformation. We ask that you please send this e-mail to anyone who sent you the article, and please ask them to do the same.
         
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        Thanks for the warning Shiney. I'm pretty sure I heard it fairly recently on no less than BBC Radio 2. I must admit I thought at the time it sounded a bit iffy.
         
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