Is this a wild flower

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  1. Waco

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    I think it was brought by a friend from Norway, it seeds itsef everywhere, but its very pretty so I leave it alone howerer when it gets somewhere it should not be I pull it out.

    Its more often seen in white, and last week after putting a load on the compost heap I brought some into the house and the scent in the evening is fantastic.

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    Its actually almost like a phlox
     
  2. Hornbeam

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    Your Norwegian scented plant, Waco. It is one of the crucifers (cross shaped, 4 petals).There are three British wild flowers that are very similar - honesty, hoary stocks and Dames'Violet. There is also a plant called Parrya nudicaulis and that is a crucifer growing wild in Spitsbergen and right across the arctic in Asia and America. So that could be it if the seeds came from Norway, but would an arctic plant be happy in a hot English garden?

    The leaves are wrong for honesty and stocks and very much like those of Dame's Violet(Hesperis matronalis). It is a native to much of Europe and was often grown in gardens because of the superb scent. I have seen it growing in Iceland so there is no reason to suppose that it couldn't grow in Norway. Have a look at this photo of one growing in my garden - does it look the same as yours? I can never understand why they aren't grown more in gardens - they are wonderful scented plants and can be grown as biennials or perennials.
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  3. Waco

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    Very interesting hornbeam, I have been trying to grow honesty in my garden for years (whith no success) when I ask friends for some, they look at this plant and tell me that I already have it, but I know that it is not honesty.

    I think my plant is much more delicate of flower and habit (both stem flower and seed pod) than yours, though it could be the same.

    Picture of white one is not much better. It is definately staying in mine - it does not take over either. I presume I propergate from seed?

    You can see what a useful plant it is for me setting off the purple and dark green.

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  4. Hornbeam

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    It could be honesty, but I just can't see the leaves clearly. They come in purple or white and sometimes splashed with both. You'll know if it is honesty for certain if it produces the big silver seed pods. Yes, you grow from seed but it is a biennial so no flowers next year. You'll get flowers the following year. Dame's Violet has the stronger scent.
     
  5. wildflower

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    My dames violet has been and gone or else i would have taken a photo..the leaves on my dames violet are more slender.than. honesty which looks like large nettle leaves..i have loads of honesty pods waco do you want me to send you some and you can sow them? i normally just scatter them around..if you want some let me know..
     
  6. wildflower

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    looking back at the pictures the leaves on the purple one looks like dames violet and the white one looks like honesty leaves..you will soon find out if you grow a pod!some of my honesty leaves are huge like giant nettles and others probably because they are squashed by other plants came small..
     
  7. Waco

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    Its not honesty as I don't get the seed heads. The other strange thing is it is perennial, and yes - same plane not just self seeds.
     
  8. Hornbeam

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    Reckon it is Dames's Violet then.
     
  9. Waco

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    Well then hornbeam that is the name it will now live with thanks.

    BUT - we have just got a Norwegian new neighbour and he says he will come round to see if he can identify it as a Norwegian weed - don't think he will though.
     
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    Funny, but I have Norwegian neighbours ... but their in Norway at the moment .... ho, ho!
     
  11. Waco

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    Oh these trolls, they do get about!
     
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