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Is this verbascum?

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  1. Snorky85

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    Saw this last year in the garden and it was flat and really pretty but no flower....its now growing with some height. Was looking up verbascum (for another plant I thought was verbascum) and thought it looked like this? Any ideas? :)
     
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    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Wouldn't like to say, its nothing like the white felt like Verbascum that self seeds around here.

    I got a feeling it might be something from bird feed.:smile:
     
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    Lol it's not like the "thing that grew from birdseed" last year. :dancy:
     
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      There are some non-woolly species too but the leaves don't look like that. It'll be interesting to see what develops, though :)
       
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        Doesn't look like Verbascum to me. :noidea:

        The very big Verbascum Thapsus is the one that you see a lot and tends to have the hairy looking greyish leaves. It can grow rather tall (ours grows to 10ft with no trouble) and it's a good habitat for the mullein caterpillar and moth.

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        Then you have the very popular V. Chaixii that comes in different colour - all very attractive - that is smaller, has smaller leaves that are green
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        There are loads of others but I don't know any that have the leaves that you are showing.
         
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          Lovely Chaixii @shiney. I grew it once and collected the seed which did nowt when I sowed it the following year. I bought another plant to try again and it legged up so maybe it doesn't like here. The woolly version on the other hand is all but a pest here and makes appearances all over the place:)
           
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            Thanks, @silu :dbgrtmb:

            The wooly ones can be a nuisance but the Chaixii are well behaved. That particular one is quite bushy because we cut it down each year after flowering. It then, quite often produces a second small set of flowers in mid to late August. Cutting it down makes it produce side shoots from the main stem and that's how it eventually ends up like the photo above.

            In our garden they self seed everywhere with no trouble.

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              :wow:@shiney that's a lot of Chaixii. Maybe you will be selling them at you wonderful open day this weekend? I also spy tonnes of Lychnis. I now think I know why I had no luck Chaixii. I grow Lychnis but it doesn't do too well here, as maybe a bit too much winter wet and can rot off. The 2 seem to enjoy the same conditions judging by your photo so maybe Chaixii likes it pretty dry over the winter too?
               
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                There's loads more of both :rolleyespink: - all self seeded. That's part of our veg plot :doh: I don't know whether we have any Chaixii for sale. They need to be lifted when very young as their roots take such a strong hold that they're not easy to dig and transplant.
                 
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                  Some lovely verbascum there @shiney. I guess i'll have to wait and see what this turns out to be?!?
                   
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                    Evening Primrose?
                     
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                      Could be Evening Primrose :blue thumb: Good call @Scrungee

                      The leaves look a bit slimmer than normal but they do look like that when they're young. Otherwise the shape is right and they have the lighter main vein down the middle.
                       
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                        Last year it was completely flat....was a pretty circular pattern of leaves but never grew tall. Is that the same for evening primrose?
                         
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                        The flowering stem grows from the middle but would have thought that it should have flowered last year. :scratch:
                         
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