just cant get my tomatoes right

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  1. mrmagpie

    mrmagpie Apprentice Gardener

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    Hi I have grown tomatoes in buckets for the last two years in a greenhouse i have tried various composts etc and although i do get decent sized fruits and they do ripen their flavour is a tad bland I tried tigerella this year along with shirley and they just taste the same.
    I used phostrogen this year to feed them and that made no difference I tried tomorite last year results just the same I fed plants once per week whats the correct way to do this ?
    any tips on getting great tasting tomatoes i have thrown most away and thats a shame
    I tried a mixture of grow bag compost in some pots and homemade compost in others results just the same
     
  2. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I think greenhouse toms are bland.

    They need to struggle a bit to taste good.

    Just my opinion, but the plants grow too lush under glass and it makes the toms tasteless, just like supermarket ones.

    They need less water and feeding if grown outside, the plants are stockier and less leafy.

    I tend to think the growing conditions have more effect on taste than the variety.

    I grow mine outside in the ground and never feed and only water if the plants are suffering in the early season, no water in august whatever the weather.
     
  3. Brian Simpson

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    Interesting - I had exactly the same problem - all my toms of my moneymaker plant indoors are bland as anything. :scratch:

    I did have a bumper crop outside which went the way of blight in the course on one very wet week. At least I think it was blight - all the plants and tomatoes want brown in the week. :(

    I was planning on a different tomato variety (tried moneymaker this year) however having read Pete's advice I might try outside again next year.

    Brian
     
  4. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Blight will always be the big drawback to outdoor toms Brian.
    The last two summers have not been good, but I think we got away with it down here this year, not a good summer by any means but dryer than many places in the UK.

    Its always a gamble.:)
     
  5. Vince

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    My outdoor tomatoes got "blighted" but my greenhouse ones are doing well and not at all bland in taste. Maybe it's because I rarely feed and water less than recommended or maybe it's because I grow them in soil out of the garden mixed with a little compost. I do keep the greenhouse door and windows open throughout the summer and prune excess leaves off on a regular basis to aid air and light flow.

    Best varieties this year have been Golden Sunrise (hardly any seed inside), Gardeners Delight (very prolific), Roma (nice large plum fruits), the others I'm still waiting to ripen so will hold judgement 'til then :)
     
  6. terrier

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    I tried 'Tamina' this year in the greenhouse and found them very bland to taste. Maybe I shouldn't blame the plants then? I never have any luck growing toms outdoors here in North Wales. Maybe next season I'll thin out the leaf branches to make the plants struggle a bit. Also I was wondering if dosing them with magnesium sulphate might improve the flavour?
     
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    Interesting idea about growing them outside, I think its the variety which make the difference though. I just love Golden Sunrise - its such a distinctive sweet flavour compared to the standard supermarket varieties (Moneymaker or Ailsa Craig). Tigerella is another favourite for me is the perfect tomato taste and Gardeners Delight is firm tangy and sweet. I tried a couple of new ones this year, Black Krim and Black Russian but so far only a couple have ripened, but these tasted quite different - not sweet certainly.
     
  8. sawfish

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    I had a very limited crop of purple russian this year and they had a superb flavour, I'd recommend you all to try them. They're pretty cold tolerant too.

    Next year I'm determined to get more!

    Top tips please :D
     
  9. Prastio

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    I tend to grow Moneymaker outside in pots as they are a pretty safe variety - not as temperamental as many others and I am rather idle about looking after my crops. I do agree that in a poor Summer the taste is not fully developed - they need a good dose of sun. Also, I find that the skin of Moneymaker is very tough. Next year I will branch out in some of the other varieties that posters have recommended.
     
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