Lawn Invader

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  1. jw

    jw Apprentice Gardener

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    Hi All,

    I have a really annoying plant that seems to creep underneath my lawn, and pops up in various different places. I've taken a couple of pictures of it: http://www.essexchurches.info/plants/

    Can anyone identify this for me, and what is the best way to tackle it? To date, I have simply been snapping it off at ground level, though in the past, when it has appeared away from the lawn, and I have attacked it more aggressively, I noticed that it seems to have a creeping root.

    Thanks

    John
     
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    Hi

    Looks like a sucker from a nearby plant, maybe a plum tree?
     
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    Hmmm...I must admit that did cross my mind. But the nearby trees are both Prunus - one is a red-leaved ornamental cherry, and the other a green-leaved ornamental almond (we think). The odd thing is that these suckers are appearing at perhaps between 1 and 12 feet from the base of the green leaved tree - which of the two would be the only one I'd think it could be (the red one's leaves are very dark). And that tree's width at the top is perhaps 6-8 feet.

    Supposing they are suckers, is the only route (pun not intended) to just keep cutting the tops?
     
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    Definitely looks like a plum sucker to me. Almond leaves are normally much more elongated and narrower.

    Plum suckers could be coming from almost anywhere depending on how long the runners have been growing. It can, quite likely, be from a neighbour's garden.

    Very difficult to get rid of. You can keep mowing but eventually the root where you are mowing it will gradually get bigger and protrude from the lawn. You could use a systemic killer on it but that is likely to get back to the original tree and harm it. If there are no plum trees in the area they could be suckers caused by someone having removed their tree and not killed off the the roots. In which case they could have run for hundreds of feet.

    You may need to use something like SBK brushwood killer. It is possible that you will have to use it on all the shoots that are coming up around your garden. Read the instructions carefully.

    Even if it's not plum the same information applies.

    Good luck :thumb:
     
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    Thanks - think I'll need it. I take it the systemic killer as suggested will simply travel back up the suckers, rather than killing what grass we have? I don't know where the tree is to be honest, so if someone's suddenly dies then...ahem...sorry. And if it does turn out to be one of ours then it is probably time to get shot of it and replace anyway.
     
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    Now that I've searched for images of plum suckers, I'm in complete agreement. This garden is now at war... :wink:
     
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    You apply the killer carefully to the suckers (as per instructions on container) so that it doesn't get on anything else.

    What I'm not allowed to tell you :wink: is that if the mixture is too runny in its neat form some people mix it with a little bit of cooking oil before brushing it on the offending growth.
     
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    Thanks - I never heard you say a thing! :wink:
     
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    The roots are usually not to deep if you dig down the sucker you should get a direction the roots are coming from then simply trace back to your boundary and sever the root system. As long as the tree is not directly on your neighbours boundary it will cause little impact to the tree.
     
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    I think he has a lot more than just one shoot showing. :)
     
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    I fully agree, but I assume they are coming from the same tree. At least it is a problem which is soon solved.
     
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    Looking at neighbouring gardens, I cannot even begin to imagine where the parent tree is. Suckers starting to appear again though - I'm just waiting for them to get a bit bigger - won't be long, as they seem much more virulent now.
     
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    Trees are very often grafted. eg a green leaves tree is used as rootstock for red leaf top.

    Sweet almond trees are grafted on to bitter almond.

    Therefore, the leaves on the suckers you have found, will not look like the leaves on the tree that they are growing from .

    You have 2 trees in the vicinity. My bet it that it is one of these.
     
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    Aha...I'd not thought of that. So one of my two trees could suddenly peg it! :oops: Still, though, like I said before, if it is one of mine, and it's causing this much trouble, it's time it moved along anyway!

    That said, my red leaved tree sprouts red leaves a long way down the trunk - so I'm confident that is not grafted. Of the two, I'd prefer the green one to go, as that has caused a lot of lumps and bumps in the lawn near it's base anyway.

    Thanks

    John
     
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    Well, I've sprayed about 5 suckers with SBK. It's been about 24 hours so far, but I've seen no real change yet. How long will it take to travel back to the parent tree/plant, and then kill the suckers?

    JW
     
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