Lent/Mothers Day /Easter

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  1. Anthony Rogers

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    Hi all,

    I heard something on the tv today which has flummoxed me a little......

    They said that today, Mothers Day was always in the fourth week of Lent.

    OK, but what I can't work out is that Lent is six weeks long so that should make Easter two weeks today but it isn't, it's three weeks ! ¿ !

    Err..... What's happening ?
     
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      Easter is a Movable Feast ...Mothers Day isn't?
       
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        Hi Victoria,
        No, they're all on the same timeline so being a moveable feast shouldn't affect it.
         
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          Easter is a movable feast and Mothers Day isn't? Sorry, this is an ex-Catholic speaking! :redface: Tried to edit previous post but no go and I can't see my previous post! :scratch: Eek ... now it has appeared! :hate-shocked: In America (where I lived for many years it was a fixed date when I had a mother.) :scratch:
           
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            I got checking and now even more confused :scratch: as Lent is always 6 weeks starting from
            Ash Wednesday to Easter

            "Mothering Sunday, sometimes known as Mother's Day, is held on the fourth Sunday of Lent. It is exactly three weeks before Easter Sunday and usually falls in the second half of March or early April"

            http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/uk/mothering-sunday
             
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              Sorry Victoria, what I meant to say is that Mothers Day is moveable as well.
              It always works like this.............

              Start of Lent ( Ash Wednesday).....>
              4 weeks later
              Mothers Day........>
              2 weeks later
              Easter Day

              So even though Easter is moveable so is Mothers Day, i've just checked on calender and this year Mothers Day is in the third week of Lent.

              I'm beginning to wonder if the person on telly had just made a bit of a booboo.
               
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                We celebrate Mother's day on the 2nd Sunday in May. Father's day the 3rd Sunday in June.

                No religious connection.

                Why is Christmas Day always the 25th of December if the rest of the religious holidays move about?

                MY obit will be a fixed date :)
                 
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                  Hi Lori,
                  Until today I never realised that our Mothers Day had any religious connection !

                  As for Christmas, that to me has always been a bit of a muck up.

                  The day Jesus was born is the sixth of January ( date mucked up when the calendar was altered to take into account leap years ).
                  Christmas day is actually based on a Pagan ceremony ! Ironic or what !
                  The year he was born is actually now proven to be what we now know as 7 BC.........

                  Going by historical records they know he died when he was 37 years old ie AD 30.

                  With all this information available you'd think they'd be able to fix a fixed date.
                   
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                    Because when the church becamepolitical they tried to force people to side with them and and do away with their polytheistic pagan beliefs. Persecution helped but wasn't enough, so they resorted to mockery and blatant hijacking. Christmas is to replace the winter solstice celebrations. It's only on the 25th now because one king (can't remember which) got solstice date wrong and nobody dared tell him. The whole giving things up for lent is actually nothing to do with religion. It represents the hungry period when stores are running low at the end of winter and the land has yet to wake up in the new year.

                    Easter moves about because Easter, or oestre as the Norse called her before Christianity, was the goddess of youth and fertility. She would manifest once a year, as the first full moon following the spring equinox. Prior to the arrival of oestre, the land was considered kind of dead (not exactly, but conventional modern thinking doesn't have an exact translation) after the crone aspect of the triple goddess had cast the land into winter. Oestre would return each year after the spring equinox to resurrect the land.

                    Interestingly, while for the most part, the church has tried very hard to completely destroy the older pagan ideas, in some Celtic strongholds, you can still clearly see old pagan notions of nature worship very much alive and kicking within the Christian teachings and art. It's quite fascinating I think.
                     
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                      Very interesting. So why does the modern world still shift? Most of us are more frightened of HAL than the devil..:heehee:
                       
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                      Tradition I guess.
                       
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                        Hi Lori,

                        Who's Hal ?
                         
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                        Remember 2001, A Space Odyssey ? :yikes:
                         
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                        Oh, never seen it.
                        I thought it was your husband or something :roflol:
                         
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                        HAL is the computer system that runs the spaceship and then decides that it will eliminate the occupants.... :yikes:
                         
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