Like a castor oil plant....

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    Sitting in traffic today, I noticed that the centre of the roundabout I was sat at has recently been planted up, and one plant in particular looks very like a castor oil plant - they are pretty poisonous aren't they? Is there anything that would be similar that isn't so poisonous (that is also hardy enough to be planted out in this weather)?
     
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    Doubt that they'd be planting Ricinus communis out yet..that's the true castor oil plant, tender and the seeds are toxic. Would it have been Fatsia japonica, false castor-oil plant, pretty hardy evergreen and not toxic AFAIK???
     
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      the ricinus would have died with a frost , must be a fatsia ;)
       
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        Ah, yes that will be the one! I did think it very strange if it were to be a castor oil plant, not least because they are poisonous and we live in a BSE society nowadays.
         
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          Nearly - Blame Someone Else; if someone got poisoned by eating one of the leaves, it would be the local authorities fault for planting them - the fact that they are in the middle of a roundabout on a busy dual carriageway, and are clearly not edible, would stand for now't
           
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            if local authorities only planted non poisonous plants, we would not see much variation.
             
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              Lots of plants are poisonous though even the humble potato has poisonous leaves and stems and even the tubers if they go green.
               
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                And perhaps more information about how plants can be toxic wouldn't go amiss. It's only the seeds of Ricinus that are toxic and you'd need to eat 12 or so for them to be fatal. As they don't usually set very much in the way of seed in the UK, it's not that much of a big deal? Like the old chestnut about Datura being poisonous:thud: The leaves and roots are hallucinogenic..not quite the same thing as highly poisonous....
                 
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                  Ricinus is very poisonous (in terms of a 1 to 10 scale) ... but you never hear of anyone dying eating it. The seeds / beans are the most poisonous part, but they don't set seed all that readily in the UK ... the poison "Ricin" comes from that plant and is favoured by spies and the like (remember the London Bridge murder with the tip of an umbrella?) ... but so, with a bit of "processing" does Castor Oil - hence the name. Education better than BSE in this case I think. Daffodils and Aconites are poisonous, as are Apple pips ... be very bland if public parks don't plant any of them.
                   
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                    So FC, what Kristen is saying is.....that somebody is more likely to become a statistic crossing the dual carriageway to get to the roundabout than consuming a possible Ricinus seed/plant! :)
                     
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                      While we are on the ricinus subject,would it be advised to repot mine in deeper pots?when i checked them today the roots are out of the bottom of their pots(7cm) but they are only just germinating, or would it be not wise to disturb them yet.i grew them last yr but must of been in 9cm pots:doh: thanks x
                       
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                      Probably you should pot them on. I don't think they're the sort of thing that can't cope with any disturbance.

                      Worried now about the thousands of apple pips I've consumed in my lifetime. I always eat them right down to the stalk.
                       
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