Local Authority Green Waste Collection

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  1. oktarine

    oktarine Gardener

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    Our LA have recently announced that they will be issuing selected areas of the borough with brown wheelie bins to take garden waste, specifically of interest to me for getting rid of the non compostable stuff like logs etc.
    Initially i was pleased with the concept until i discovered they will be levying a �£30 quid charge per year, which they say is vital to cover the extra costs involved.
    Now, Im all for going green, and have 3 compost bins, 4 water butts etc, but dont see why I should have to pay for this extra service. Where's the incentive ? The charge would be ok if it were deducted from my council tax, but that is not the case.
    Currently, to get such waste removed kerbside, I have to buy a Blue plastic bag (75p) from the council office ( 9 miles away ) and put the garden waste out for collection with my household bin. When the bins are collected, the bin men simply put the blue bags in the same truck as where they put the household waste.
    I tried a couple of times putting the waste in black bags ( 10 for a pound - bit of a saving over the blue bags ) out for collection, but the bin men sinply ignore it !!!!

    Surely its time our LA's saw the light, and made some sensible decisions.

    Sorry folks, RANT over!!!

    I feel better now !

    TTFN
     
  2. geoffhandley

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    So is everyone having to pay the extra �£30/year whether they put the stuff in the brown wheelie bins or not?
    If they are charging you �£30 extra to use the recycling bins then they are out of order cause if no one uses them then the council will have to pay lots more than that in the landfill tax. it is now in the councils interest to get people to recycle as much as possible to reduce the charges that will be levied due to landfill. Many councils are starting to charge for stuff that people don't recycle and to be honest if people can't be bothered to sort out their waste in to the correct containers for recycling then they should pay for it. But to charge more for recycling????
    If its true then I would contact MP, Local media etc cause the council will look a right set of charlies in light of government targets etc.
    I thought my local authority were behind the times but we now have a green bin into which we put our garden waste, cardboard and kitchen waste.It all gets ground up and fed to worms. They also collect glass bottles and newspapers. The ordinary bins now only get collected fortnightly. The only moans we had were from those who said they did not have enough non recyclable bins but that was usually because they were filling them with kitchen rubbish, beer cans, wine and spirit bottles etc.
     
  3. Hex

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    After paying �£10 for the privilege we`re still waiting for the garden waste bin to arrive.
    Early days yet though, it`s only been 2 years this summer ;)

    Complete waste of space some councils :D
     
  4. Dave W

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    We seem to be quite fortunate.We were issued with three separate bins for paper, garden
    and kitchen waste and one for "general" waste. Plus a free "dalek" for composting and the chance to buy more compost bins at reduced prices.
     
  5. good digger

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    We are lucky here the county council will provide as many dalek composters as you need and the local council provides as many green wheelie bins for compostible waste as we ask for at no extra charge
     
  6. geoffhandley

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    They make our council look like meanies. I had to pay �£20+ for my daleks and that was at a big discount.
    They will recycle other things such as plastic but we have to go down to the recycling cntre for that. So we collect all the plastics and then i shove them in my trailer and make one trip with a trailer load. We generally don't generate that much waste for the green bin - the compost bin gets most and I could use a lot more compost. The paper and cardboard is going down the bean trench - its great for giving the beans something to put their roots into - stops the flowers falling off.
     
  7. good digger

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    Tell me more geoff my friend do you scrunch the paper up? or does it just lay in they trench? how deep is the trench and do you sow the beans in the ground or start them off in pots? will it work for runner beans i had a terrible year last year with my runner beans,lots of flowers but hardly any set?
     
  8. geoffhandley

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    I was told about it originally for runner bea=ns but it works just as well for climbing French - dwarf French don't produce enough and get covered in mud. The problem with beans is they get dry at the roots so the flower drop off without being pollinated and no amount of watering seems to work - forget misting over the flowers it does not work. So you have to get this pile of stuff deep down and you don't have to scrunch it ip, just check it down.
    On the allotments the first thing to do at the end of the season was to dig out the bean trench. This will take a double row of canes so is about 3 foot across (major engineering task this, they were usually full width of the plot - 3o feet, thats 60 foot of beans, enough to feed a small county). First of all you take off the first spit and throw on one side and s****e off remainder of top soil. Then you take off the second spit down and throw that off the other side. It is into this deep trench that you throw everything down.Basically all the stuff that would take ages to rot down was thrown down, brussel sprouts, rotten swedes. Most people left them open all winter and used them like a long compost heap. Throw in cardboard, newspaper and soak it. You don't have to worry about nitrogen defficiency cause the beans aborb theirs out of the atmosphere and the nitrogen nodules on their roots will help in the decomposition of the material. Not only does it provide a source of organic material deep down for the beans but it gradually deepens the soil. I have to admit the present trench is not as deep as that - probably about 1 1/2 spits deep. You will find that you cannot fit all the soil in at the end but I just spread that around.
    I always pre chit my beans in the airing cupboard and then transferred to pots. I would fill in the trench a few weeks before they were planted and sow lettuce down the middle to mature before the beans grow up.
     
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    • geoffhandley

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      Damn....I was only trying to say S.C.R.A.P.E
       
    • good digger

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      I shall give it a try but not on such a vast scale perhaps a ten foot long trench will be enough for me to be digging.
       
    • geoffhandley

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      I think climbing beans produce more produce /area than anything else, so a 10foot double row should produce loads. For support I made up a frame of bamboo canes, with them slanting inwards towards the top and canes across the top to hold the structure together. Not every bean climbed up a cane. Many had string leading from the top to pegs in the row.
       
    • good digger

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      How tall will the canes have to be for french beans i think they are the climbing beans?
       
    • geoffhandley

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      I have always used the 8 foot ones.
       
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      Hi Oktarine

      I agree with geoff, you should kick up a fuss. You shouldn't be charged for doing the recycling for the LA.

      Hi good digger

      I also used to do what geoff does for his beans. It is very successful. In the old days the best thing to chuck in your trench was the waste hair from your local barber shop. This absorbs the water better and takes longer to rot down but paper is great.

      I also use 8 foot canes and bury them about 18 inches into the ground. geoff's way of crossing the canes at the top is the recommended way but I do it a slightly more lazy way. I cross the canes at approx 3 feet and then tie in the cross canes at the 3 foot height. This saves me stretching up to tie them. It also makes it easier to pick the upper beans because most of them hang outwards. We also get a lot of strong winds and the tops of the canes can then flex individually. You can also run clear plastic along either side of the canes to meet at the crossover point. This will give you the equivalent of cloches which will allow you to grow a quick growing catch crop down the middle. I don't do this any more because I now cover the soil with weed suppressant plastic - another lazy way for me.

      Here is a photo of how I lay them out.

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      geoff is obviously much fitter than me as I can't do the double trenching any more.

      Good on Ya, geoff.

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    • wildflower

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      We are not allowed to put kitchen waste in the composting brown bin the council collect every fortnight just grass and plants etc..
      i bought a giant size composting bin from the council last april it cost me �£6 its huge and takes some filling !! :eek:
      they also gave us a green box which isnt very big and doesnt have a lid so peoples papers fly round the streets ..thats just for newspapers and glass and beer cans..and then we have the normal dustbin if the lid isnt down they slap a warning sticker on it !!! They certainly could do a lot more especially the amount of council tax we pay..
      it costs us �£10 to get a fridge or an item of furniture removed ..thats seperate..we have just hired a skip at the cost of �£70 to remove a load of clutter and a lot of it was stolen in the night by s**** men!!!
       
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