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McAfee - don't, just don't

Discussion in 'Computer Corner' started by Fat Controller, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. Fat Controller

    Fat Controller 'Cuddly' Scottish Admin! Staff Member

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    I thought I would post this for anyone considering going for McAfee anti-virus/security stuff, by way of a warning.

    Last year, my lovely mum bought herself a new HP laptop and the shites that are PC World sold her all sorts that she simply did not need (by the time I found out it was too late), one of which was McAfee Security at the extortionate price of £80!

    She has been having some problems in recent weeks, which in short is due to McAfee blocking ports and stopping connections to printers and other network devices. As the annual renewal will be due very shortly, the opportunity arose to get rid of McAfee and solve some of the grief at the same time; I have extended my ESET licence, so my mum's PC will be covered under my subscription (£40 a year for multiple computers), and at long last she will get freedom from the bloat that is McAfee.

    Since 10am this morning, I have been remotely connected to my mums PC trying to get McAfee out, using their own removal tool; it has hung God knows how many times now, and simply will not complete the uninstall. Worse still, it has left a process behind that either stalls other attempts to run the removal tool again, or prevents other files from updating. I have tried every which way but loose, and this damned thing will not play ball at all.

    Now, I am in the process of backing the laptop up to my server, and then I am going to reinstall Windows (with the help of my lovely mum) just to get this pile of garbage out of her system for once and for all.

    If you are considering McAfee - don't. End of. :mad:
     
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    • "M"

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      I use McAfee and haven't had any problems with it :scratch: :dunno:
       
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        No need for McAfee, just upset some French farmers, lorry drivers, etc., etc.

        P.S. Mcafee 2017 5 user was £6.99 on Amazon yesterday (£5 Prime).

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        • Fat Controller

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          You are lucky then - bloomin' resource hog as far as I am concerned.

          £6.98 too expensive
           
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            The modern anti-virus software are essentially malware. Windows Defender (the one within Windows 10) is OKish. Stay away from others.
             
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              Did the Mcafee registration process involve her providing any credit/debit card details? As they will use them to automatically renew her subscription which I understand is a default setting.
               
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                I use AVG free antivirus and a paid VPN, touch wood I've never had any issues, famous last words :heehee:
                 
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                  No, it was done by the shysters at PC World
                   
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                    AVG for me too - it's free and I'm a tight wad :blue thumb:
                     
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                      But if her credit card/debit card details were used to purchase the laptop, were they not also used for the purchase of the 12 months Mcafee, or did she pay CC/Debit Card for the laptop and £80 cash for the AV software?

                      If one of our elderly relatives had been fooled into buying Mcafee for £80, I'd be checking whether they'd also been fooled into purchasing automatic renewal.
                       
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                        McAffee is pants. Apart from failing to detect many problems, and blocking other things it shouldn't, it is also one of the most commonly targeted suites out there.

                        Having such a huge market share, malware writers see it as a challenge. It doesn't take too much effort to write code that renders it completely useless.

                        It's pointless anyway. Most attacks nowadays on windows are caused by the user downloading random stuff while logged in as administrator. We should all really have a limited privilege user account for normal daily activity, and only log in as administrator, with a password, when we want to change system level stuff. But nobody ever does. Straight into admin on boot, without even prompting for password.
                         
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                          Long story but I bought my first PC in 2005, from PC world, it also came with "free" macafee.
                          Well I stumped up the money after the first year, and probably the year after that.

                          I then decided I was going to use AVG, but I couldn't run both so tried to uninstall macafee, I couldn't.
                          To cut a long story short I ended up deleting anything in the registry with macafee in its title, and it seemed to work.
                          But to be honest I didn't know what I was doing.:biggrin:
                           
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                            I will double check with her regarding the auto-renew @Scrungee - better to be safe than sorry.

                            This particular McAfee has caused no end of grief, so much so that I remotely burned a copy of W10 onto a disc, and have since talked my mum through getting into the BIOS to change the boot order, and then to boot to the DVD to install Windows from scratch (which it is currently doing); once Windows is installed, TeamViewer will be next to allow me to install ESET and then everything else for her. Ten hours so far - not funny.
                             
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                              @fat controller I agree with Scrungee. You need to check carefully what may be happening in way of payments.

                              Also, you need to tell her bank that you don't authorise any automatic payments (Direct Debits etc.) apart from ones that you should list and give to the bank. You should be able to get those from her bank statements.

                              Talk to the bank and explain that you think that she, as an elderly person, may have been persuaded to sign something she didn't understand.
                               
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                                No ongoing subscription, although they did try at the time; thank goodness my lovely mum had that part of her brain switched on at the time.

                                By way of an update, getting shot of this and all its problems ended up with a clean re-install of Windows - great fun to do remotely, especially when the first bootable Windows disc is corrupt and stalls at 94% installed after having formatted the hard drive! The good news is, the laptop is now running better than it ever has, and is covered under my ESET licence for antivirus, with Malwarebytes picking up the remainder.
                                 
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