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  1. Fat Controller

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    Whilst walking back from my daughter's school sports day (champion welly thrower by the way :biggrin:), I spotted a really nice little shrub/bush and would really like a couple for the garden, so can anyone tell me what I am asking for?

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    There was a very similar one next to it with variegated leaves. My other option (as its fairly accessible) is to take a cutting or four if it looks like the type of thing that would work from a cutting?

    Whilst I am on, can anyone help me ID these before I go digging them up and regretting it:

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    This one looks to have crept under the fence from next door, so I will probably lose it when my new fences are put up (hopefully very soon) - what is it, and should I be taking cuttings whilst I have the opportunity?

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    Got a couple of these (the one at the back with the purple/blue flower) - I think it could be a weed, but not sure?

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    And lastly, I think the one above is a Hollyhock? Its not looking too happy though (rusty spots all over the leaves) and I think it may have self seeded from one in a nearby border (can they do that?) - is there anything I can or should do to help it, or is it not worth bothering with?
     
  2. Lolimac

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    The first pic looks like Wiegela and the second ..periwinkle....i think....
    not sure about the others....:dunno:
     
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      Thanks for the quick reply :) - googling those two, it looks like you are spot on with the Wiegela, so that is one to ask for at the garden centre; the images for periwinkle don't really give much of a clue. so I might have to keep trying with that one.
       
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        3rd aquilegia blue
        4 look like a ricinus at an early stage but not sure .
         
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        The first looks like Weigelia which is easy to grow from cuttings. I always think that the vairegated one is more attractive.

        The second one looks very much like an escaped part of a privet hedge.

        The third appears to be a blue Aquilegia. If you can wait until the last minute before the fence is done then dig the whole plant out and put it elsewhere in the garden you will be rewarded with a nice flowering plant. You can't take cuttings but it will dig out very easily. The flowering stem can grow up to 3 - 4ft tall with a number of flowers, once it's settled in (which should be by next April).
         
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        Thanks all - just to be sure, I will get the big camera out later and try and get some better images.

        I'm glad to hear that the Weigelia is easy to take cuttings from - is it best to wait until its finished flowering before doing so?

        I assume its just a case of cut a bit off, bare some stem, dip in hormone rooting powder and then into moist compost?
         
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        The second plant does look like a periwinkle (Vinca) leaf but as it spreads through long rooting stems I would have thought you'd have found more than 1 clump (maybe a distance away). Anyone who has some is sure to be happy to give you some as it spreads and often has to have bits dug out to keep it under control. It will eventually make a very thick ground cover mat with blue flowers from about April all the way through the summer. Doesn't mind sun or shade and really doesn't need any special care either.

        I'd check more closely though, if it is periwinkle the stems will be soft and this is probably a clump of several separate stems, that's my main hesitation as the photo isn't too clear. Also look over the fence and see if your neighbour has some!
         
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        Update - here are some more pics, hopefully clearer as they are taken with a camera rather than a phone (same numpty operating the camera though!)

        The first one is a close neighbour to, and has the same leaves as the one I thought was a hollyhock? I recall when we moved in last autumn that it had a lovely tall flower spike, with deep red flowers.

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        Hopefully a better picture of the one crawling through from next door - the leaves remind me of a lilac tree if it helps?

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        And lastly, a bigger version of the other one with more flowers (quite a pretty thing really)


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        controller, I'd say Hollyhock, Vinca Major, Aquilegia.
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          And googling says that Vinca Major is also known as periwinkle as lolimac suggested earlier - looks like they are all identified then!

          Now, the question is - does the Vinca Major look suitable to either try and lift, or take a cutting from, before my fencing is done?
           
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          Actually, whilst it is pictured, can anyone tell me what the shrub is to the right of the hollyhock?
           
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          It should be Ok to move the vinca if you have to. Just give it a good soaking before you dig it up and water in well once replanted. Obviously now is not the best timme of year but it should survive.

          The yellow shrub is a Spiraea bumalda. It is a very small leaved variety, maybe something like Golden Carpet
           
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            Thanks :)

            I'll try and get as big a rootball as I can when I dig it up (assuming of course that the roots are on my side of the fence).

            Somewhat annoyingly, I am going to have to lift my three lupins that I only planted about six weeks ago - worse still, one of them has a flowerhead showing.
             
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            There will be roots on your side of the fence. Give the lupins the same treatment, a good soaking beforehand.
             
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