Moving Phlomis

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    I was given a chunk of Phlomis last season (not grown it before). It did better
    than expected and has somewhat outgrown it's allotted space. For weeks I have meant to move it and then something else needed doing and I never got round to it. Now of course it's started into growth with a bang. I still want to move it, am I best to cut down all the new foliage or move as is?. The ground is still pretty damp here and weather quite sunny during the day but cold (very dewy) overnight. If I cut it all back will I then loose the flowers which appear from about June? from memory.
     
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    I'm assuming it's Russelliana. It's best to wait until after they've flowered but during a wet spell. If you do want to dig them up now then cut them back a bit first but soak them for a day (bucket of water) before replanting. They tend to go very droopy when dug up but should recover.

    Your best bet is to split it, in the ground and move half of it. Then if the moved half takes OK you can move the piece that is left. They tend to spread quite easily, both from root and seed. Plant it in a spot where you can let it do its own thing. We have loads of it and restrict each area to a diameter of approx. 5ft. We then take out the outer young plants, pot them up and sell them - or give them to people you don't like who have small gardens. :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
     
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      How dreadful doing something like that @shiney:), oh by the way I'm going to give some of my horror thug Helianthus to a miserable, know it all gardener who I know who lives far enough from me (about 6miles) that even the thug won't spreads back here!
      Yes you presume right it's Russelliana., good idea re moving 1/2 and see if it moves ok. I'll do just that tomorrow, there's enough room to leave 1/2 in situ until after it's flowered. many thanks you are a fund of knowledge:).
       
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      That's not knowledge! That's having made all the mistakes in the book :whistle: :loll:
       
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        @silu - Helianthus and now Phlomis :runforhills:

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        :lunapic 130165696578242 5: The above did make me laugh @Gay Gardener . I have a very very big garden so certain good doers a la Phlomis are quite welcome unlike that dreadful Helianthus I removed:fingers crossed:
        yesterday.
         
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          Well @shiney you could have warned me that Phlomis isn't the easiest to dig up! As I said I would, I ventured out this morning (b cold wind so not exactly wanting to spend hours outside) with my quite dainty border fork to lift 1/2 of said Phlomis. Good god the plants have only been in situ for 1 season, but were rooted as though they been there for a century. Border fork was abandoned and eventually moved what I wanted by attacking the plants with a hefty spade. They have been unceremoniously replanted as I was heading for hyperthermia. Off on a short break tomorrow so will see if the plants have survived the massacre upon my return. The way I'm feeling about them atm I'm not too fussed if they make it or not:rolleyespink:.
           
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          Whoops! Did I forget that bit? :heehee: Put it down to a senior moment. :old:

          The plants may be droopy for a while but should pick up. :blue thumb:
           
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