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Moving Red Valerian

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by wiseowl, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. wiseowl

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    Good afternoon I have 6 Red Valerian which I have kept in the greenhouse since last Autumn they are at present 8 inches tall can I transplant them now,thank you:smile:
     
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      My Red Valerian has sat outside all Winter, Woo, in a large pot and looks happy enough. I would leave them outside for a week or two just to harden them [they're supposed to be H5 in hardiness so will be hardy in most places in the UK even in severe Winters] and then plant them out. You being a seasoned gardener will know they like well drained soil and sun. Mine are in a large pot with a mixture of compost, sand, and gravel just to keep them happy.:hapydancsmil::coffee::snorky:
       
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        Even hardy up here in the arctic circle:)
         
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          Good evening @ARMANDII my friend and many thanks I shall do as you so kindly advised ,much appreciated as always,enjoy your evening:smile:
           
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            I didn't think it transplanted well, but I guess if you take a large enough rootball it might work.
            PS, ok just noticed they are in pots.:biggrin:
             
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              Good evening @pete and thanks my friend,your right about they don't like being transplanted,I got some from the riverside last year and lost them all:smile:
               
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                I got my Red Valerian as they remind me of the Village of Nassington where I used to fish, and there they grew out of the dry walls like weeds!!
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                I transplanted mine, Woo, from it's original pot to it's present large pot without a problem. But I think the "secret" is that equal parts of compost, sand and gravel that I mixed in the pot. So I think just ordinary compost will not be ideal for Red Valerians.:coffee::snorky:
                 
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                I find it gets very big and leafy in good ground, it tends to self seed like crazy usually surviving better in poor dryer spots.
                My seed came from pure shingle at Dungeness.
                 
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                And I think that's be point, Pete.:snorky: On rich ground it will get leafy and have soft growth, while in poor, dry, sandy soil it will flourish. As I said, in Nassington Village it was growing in quantities in the base and cracks of the stone walls where there was little soil.:dunno::snorky:
                 
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                  Mine grow best in cracks in the crazy paving in basically no soil at all:rolleyespink: tried growing Albus with zero success, obviously not as strong/hardy as the red.
                   
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                    Take it out, stomp on it and never try to grow it again :paladin:
                     
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                      Naah, it's a good plant in the right place, Pal!!:heehee:
                       
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                      Valerian grows wild here on the towans leading to the beach........red, pink and white. Looks wonderful out there and seemingly in flower all summer long.:) They thrive in that dry, sandy environment. Their foliage too is attractive ....I esp like the glaucous colour on Alba.
                      For sentimental reasons though I tried to plant valerian out there exactly where I wanted them without success......they seem to resent being transplanted

                      WO, your plants will likely be fine if you planted them out now but waiting a while longer will ensure success and will be that much bigger but I would not add any compost, fertiliser or manure. Best on undernourished soil I think :)
                       
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