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Music - modern Vinyl Records

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  1. ricky101

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    Hi,

    Wondered what opinion was regarding the modern surge in the purchase and use of vinyl records and turntables.

    Used to have a small lp collection long, long ago but was redesigned after someone left them on the plastic back seat of the car on a very hot summers day !

    Had a self build turntable from a company in West Yorks called the Sugden Connoisseur BD1 which I stored for many years afterwards, but finally let it go thinking vinyl was truly dead.

    The price of a reasonable looking turntable etc and todays records seems quiet high.

    So does the sound of them really produce something special or is it just modern marketing and / or a particular fad the young ones are latching on to ?
     
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    Real connoisseurs prefer the slightly imperfect sound from vinyl as opposed to the computer enhanced sounds made on other media. That is what a customer of mine told me who was a specialist in the sale of vinyl.

    I still have a lot of vinyl - 45s, 78's and 80's (including single sided ones).

    I have a music centre that includes a radio, record player, cd player, cassette player, MP3 socket to which you can record your vinyl or cassettes (or CDs) and transfer to CD on your computer.

    Something similar to this:-
    Hi Fi Stereo System Record Player Vinyl Turntable Radio Cassette Recorder CD MP3 | eBay

    I bought it some years ago and intended to copy all my vinyl before the rest of it warped or perished (or went mouldy). I've never got around to doing it! :doh:
     
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    Freddy Miserable git, well known for it

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    Pound for pound, digital sources offer the best value for money. That said, there is (in my mind) something rather special about vinyl. Yes, one has to spend quite a bit to get good sound reproduction, but I find the vinyl experience more involving, I can’t just point the remote at it and skip tracks, so my listening feels more of an event. I’m quite fortunate, as I still have my vinyl collection, even though I stopped buying it when cd’s came along and could have easily got rid of the lot, glad I didn’t. A year or so ago, I decided to upgrade my turntable, and have since been buying vinyl again, including good quality second hand along with new.
    In answer to your question, there is no doubt that there is a bit of a fad going on, but be in no doubt, vinyl can sound very good, very good indeed :thumbsup:
     
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    shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

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    Apparently, the technical reason for the better sound of vinyl over CD/MP3 is that vinyl is analogue whereas the others are digital. From what I understand, digital doesn't tend to record the full spectrum of sound when it digitalises it. :noidea: Some of our techies may be able to answer this better.

    I suppose that I made a technical mistake when I said that I still have some vinyl 78s and 80s as these are shellac and not vinyl. I still have some pre 1910 records. :old:

    @Freddy I agree. :blue thumb: I still have a few hundred LPs.
     
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    Loosely on thread, I need to compile a selection of music for a friend from a mixture of records, CDs and erm, other sources. I wonder if one of our resident techie geniuses could confirm the easist, fastest way to achieve this? Do I transfer/rip to the hard drive of a PC connected to a turntable, save YouTube stuff also, then transfer it all to a flash drive? TIA :)
     
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    I know you can get usb turntables, but as for a regular/normal turntable, you would probably need some software. @Fat Controller would probably be able to help :thumbsup:
     
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    I always loved to watch the needle jump up and down, and then there is that nice bit of fluff that collects on the needle.
    Oh and the odd scratch when it used to slip.

    Really cant understand why vinyl went down the pan?
    I'm obviously missing something here.:biggrin:
     
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    There are a number of ways around this, depending on what equipment you have, what quality you are looking to achieve, and what music you are looking to have in the compilation.

    USB turntables are a fast way of playing a record and recording it as an MP3 file, but the resultant quality is, well, moo poo to be honest. You can take the output from an ordinary turntable, and bring it up to line level (either going through your hi-fi amp and back out the tape out sockets, or via a phono pre-amp), and then take that into your PC sound card input and get your PC to record it as an MP3 (sometimes you have to go to a WAV file, and then re-format to MP3). Once you have collated all the files you want, you can then save them onto your flash drive all as one.

    I will send you a PM in a mo.....
     
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    When we used to have the old wind up record player you needed to insert a solid metal needle into the playing arm. After a lot of plays the needle would become magnetised. There was a little dish built into the player for the needles to sit in. When we used to take one out it was magnetically stuck to a whole load of others!

    This is very similar to the one we had when I was a kid
    [​IMG]

    To increase the volume you just had to open the doors on the front. :dbgrtmb:
     
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    Perhaps portability? You can take your entire collection everywhere you go, now. Cherrypick the favourite bits from an album, compile personalised lists.....
    What I can't stand is randomised music. I grew up knowing exactly which song came after which and it throws me when they don't. Sad or what?:snorky:
     
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    We had one that belonged to my grandmother, not as posh as that one shiney:yikes:.
    It had this strange jointed swivelling arm and a kind of "speaker" actually attached to the arm, I dont think opening the doors did anything on ours, other than allowed you to hear the grind of the clockwork motor a bit better.:biggrin:
     
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    We was posh we had a piano....:snorky:
     
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    But could you play it ;):biggrin:
     
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    You whistle it, and I will give it shot.... :biggrin:
     
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