Mystery from Kenya!

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  1. rockpebblar

    rockpebblar Gardener

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    Hi all! can anyone help me with a bit of a challenge and identify a plant and a tree which were grown from a couple of seeds that appeared in my suitcase after a holiday in Kenya.
    The first was originally thought to be a a seed from a tree but when sprouted, it is an obvious climber plant with a top tendril akin to a vine, the first leaves are singular and as it sprouts the leaves become trifoil.
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    The second is a tree with multi leaves on each branch and the leaves close down to needles during the night
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    Would appreciate any help especially with the first one, tried the net but to no avail and thought as some of our members also come from exotic places (LoL?) or travel abroad with an interest in Flora, I may strike it lucky
    Thanks in anticipation
    Rockpebblar
     
  2. Ivory

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    The tree looks like some kind of acacia... There are various plants in the same family which close their leaves at night...
    Acacia xanthophloea could be one of the possible species.
     
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    The first one is a young Passion Flower? (I'm told that the two main varieties of Passiflora in Kenya are Passiflora flavicarpa & Passiflora edulis) and maybe the second one is an Acacia


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    Beaten to it:thumb:
     
  4. Ivory

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    I thought about the passionflower too. Kalmia.It certainly has the general look of one.Not sure which species though.
     
  5. Kedi-Gato

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    I also think that the first one is a passion flower and the second one an acacia.

    We have passion flower shoots all over our wintergarten this year, worse than weeds if not kept controlled in pots. Lovely flowers, so worth keeping (in a large pot!). :D

    A neighbour has an acacia and we find saplings sprouting all over the part of our garden next to hers. They look exactly like yours, rockpebblar. :eek:
     
  6. Ivory

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    Robinoas look very much like acacias, but I think this is the real thing. Robinias have one solitary leaflet on top of the leaf, acacias have not ;)
     
  7. Victoria

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    I think I agree with Passionflower on the first one ... but you can't tell until they flower.

    Second one I could go far more than Acacia ... but I won't ....

    I think pete needs to be here .....


     
  8. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I agree, first passion flower,
    second acacia.

    Which ones I would not like to guess.

    Dont suppose you have pictures of the seed capsules or better still the mother plants, do you rockpebblar?
     
  9. Victoria

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    Hey, pete .... can't remember which thread it's on but remember me asking about difference of Acacias ???? Well, today I noticed in Silves there are two ..... sorry, didn't take a photo ....
     
  10. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Sorry LoL, dont remember.

    How do you mean? You have come across two different types today?
     
  11. rockpebblar

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    Hi Pete,LoL,Ivory,KG,KL
    many thanks for replies and ideas.
    both sets of seeds were in a pod very similar to a french bean, the creeper pod was about 4-6 inches long and the "acacia" about 8-9 inches long, this tree was about 15-20ft high and had multiple headed yellow flowers on it.
    I take the point re the similarity to passion flower (having grown them in the past) but I cannot recall seeing any on the various safaris we took and unless some "rogue" seed found their way in to my propagator (pot in garden!) or the african variety has long pods instead of roundish ones it could not be that,,,
    here is seeds as requested
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    The tree could well be a variety of the acacia...I will try to find out more...again many thanks all
     
  12. Ivory

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    That's interesting, rockpebblar, winged seeds on the climber. Passiflora quadrangularis has winged seeds .... as does Wisteria and Cobea. :confused: Yellow cluster flowers do occur on Acacias.

    Sorry, pete, on reflection I think it's Albizia I'm thinking of .... but yes, two different coloured ones. :rolleyes:

     
  14. rockpebblar

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    Thanks Ivory, it is almost definately an acacia (possibly Acacia elephantorrhiza ) as the tree was abundant with yellow flowers. Am now convinced that the other is indeed a variety of passion flower which somehow managed to infiltrate my "plastic bag" storage system. I now have two acacia's growing and several PF's (These I will farm out to some one who has the place for them) Interestingly I have just noticed that I have several "trees" growing from seeds from Egypt..really must stop going on holiday or my garden will resemble Kew in a few years time, all I need now is a bit more Global warming to keep them healthy and a hundred tons of desert sand
    Thanks again
    Rockpebblar
     
  15. rockpebblar

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    Thanks LoL
    your correct (as usual) wish I had your Med weather/conditions to grow them
    regards
    Rockpebblar
     
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