New shed needed

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    I am at the point of conceding defeat with our current shed. We bought it a couple of years ago, and all it has done since is leak.

    A lot of time and effort was put into erecting it in the first place, building a wooden base to the size specified on the instructions and then going as far as wrapping the edges of the wood with damp proof course to protect the wood. It took two of us two very long days to get the shed put together (it is a Yardmaster metal one), and it actually looks OK from the outside. The doors have been a pain in the rear since it was put up - the metal is so thin, it bows in places and the screws that hold the sheet metal to the framework stick out and snag on the inside of the shed walls.

    More than anything, it leaks.... like a sieve. Did I mention that it leaks?

    So, with that in mind, I am looking at new sheds. I am slightly restricted in what I can put up, as it has to sit on a base which in turn sits on a patio (I rent, so cannot do what I really would like to and make a nice flat concrete base); we had a traditional wooden shed before this metal bar-steward and it leaked too - the wood was typically thin, and the OSB floor was pretty poor to be honest, so I am reluctant to go down the 'traditional' shed road.

    Of course, a good quality wooden shed made from solid wood (tongue and groove etc) would be the real answer, but I can't afford that at the size I need (10 x 8), so that leaves me looking at metal again or plastic.

    I think I would rather poke my own eyes out with a fork than go for metal again, so plastic is being preferred at the moment, and this is one that I am particularly looking at - Factor 8x11 Shed

    I recognise the Keter brand, so hopefully it will be decent quality? Anyone got a plastic shed? Better still, anyone put one up themselves?
     
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      Thems easy enough to build from scratch FC, be a lot cheaper. Get the materials from a builders merchant rather than a diy store though:)
       
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        That's what I've got, made by a local shed manufacturer nearly 30 years ago. I added some ties up the roof to prevent sagging + provide some high level storage, and have only had to replace the barge boards & finials a couple of times. Looks good for at least another 30 years.

        Every time I compared the cost of ready made v DIY sheds, the ready made's have always been cheaper, but their prices have increased. If taking the DIY route schedule every single component, allow extra for wastage/mistakes and then decide if it's actually worth it to produce something built to last 75 years if you don't plan to stay there that long.

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          I'm also looking for a shed but they're too expensive. The other half brought home big timber posts and some tongue and groove panelling for a fence at the back last year but he don't live here anymore and is reluctant to build anything except brick/block walls ..I might build a shed out of it myself instead :ouch1: I have a concrete base up the back I can put it on and I don't think making the walls would be a problem just the frame of it.
           
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          Sorry, can't help. I have a Yardmaster that is coming up for ten years old and has never leaked and is quite sturdy. :noidea: I'd recommend them any time.
           
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          I just ordered a shed for my allotment and recommend you go to a local shed supplier, you should get a decent wooden one for the price of that plastic Ketler one (I see Costco selling it for £699.99). The shed supplier I used was Bourne Buildings near Farnham, they have loads on display and were very helpful. I think a Feather Edge one would be about the same price as the Ketler, and shiplap is about £100 more.

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          The shed I ordered has T/G roof and floor and is dip treated. I compared it to the cheaper sheds you can buy online and looked at some in the local garden centres which were around 20% cheaper but had terrible thin wood that was already warping and doors that wouldn't open/close properly.

          I sympathise with your metal shed selection, I bought a metal B&Q shed for home a few years ago and it is so thin and easily dented. Mine doesn't leak as I sealed all the screw holes with silicon, but condensation is a terrible problem inside over winter. I can't leave anything metal in there as it goes rusty. I wish I had spent a bit more and bought a wooden one.
           
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            @Zigs - I would love to build my own, but I have neither the time, the tools or the skills, so pre-made it will have to be.

            @Scrungee - already signed up to Wickes, but definitely won't be here 75 years! If I could get ten dry years, I would be happy.

            @JWK - thanks, I will look into those ones, as Farnham isn't all that far from me.

            @shiney - I really thought I was doing a good thing going for the Yardmaster, but it has leaked so badly over the couple of years that it has been up that the floor is pretty much rotten. We used a load of silicon in the construction too, but it seems that it was to no avail.

            I quite liked the integrated floor of the plastic one - I am thinking it should seal better against water ingress? And then, if water does get in, the floor won't rot as its plastic?
             
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              If the water does get in, what's going to happen to it? :scratch:
               
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                I shall use it to cool my wrath at yet another leaking shed :biggrin:
                 
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                  When I invest in a shed for here, I will be getting a Shiplap shed from this company. I would certainly go for shiplap than overlap. In my experience, they are sturdier and less prone to leaking.
                   
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                    Have to agree, definitely building from scratch if it was me
                     
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                      FC, are you sure it is leaking and not a build up of condensation?
                       
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                      If I had the time and the tools Andy, I would - but I have neither, and carpentry is not exactly my strength (I am more adept at things that spark and let the magic smoke out)
                       
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                        Nah, leaking - "p155 wet through" to quote a relative who looked at it. I have even stood in the thing whilst Mrs C drenches it with a hose, and cannot see where it is leaking from. Best case scenario now, I would have to lift it, replace the floor and then set it back down and re-secure it - and I cannot see any way to lift a whole shed.
                         
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                          Well there you go then, just nick a minibus :whistle:
                           
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