Non-toxic wood preservative

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  1. Liz W

    Liz W Gardener

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    I've been looking into a preservative to put on the raised veg beds and have come across this one. I've bought it so I'll see how it works, but has anyone else used it?

    http://www.lifetimewoodtreatment.com/

    I got it from Amazon, a pack of powder to dilute. I'm quite excited to see if it delivers.

    Liz
     
  2. Flinty

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    Hmmmm. That stuff seems too good to be true. I note they claim one application will "last a lifetime" - how long is that, I wonder? When I've used water-based products on fencing panels in the past, I reckon that about 5 years was the longest they ever lasted.

    But I've never seen this particular product before, let alone used it. I'd be very interested in your opinion of how easy it is to apply, its penetration, etc.
     
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    Liz - we will all be very interested to know how it goes. But I am afraid that like Flinty I have some doubts.

    Protection of wood above ground is one thing - but protection of wood in contact with damp soil is more demanding.
     
  4. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I'm also sceptical, didn't read it all I'm afraid, does it say how many thousands of pounds it is per tin to buy? just joking.
    But if its that good the price will be astronomical.

    There is I believe a Scandinavian timber treatment thats based on acetic acid, (vinegar), but as far as I know it has to be pressure treateed.

    We will wait with baited breath Liz, and I really hope it works.
     
  5. Liz W

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    I did do some research and people say it works for raised beds. One person said that five years later the wood was as good; my beds are 1/4 rotten after a year so five would be good. It's £20 for powder for 5 litres which seems okay to me. They say this in their FAQs
    Q11: Who is using LifeTime Wood Treatment?

    A: Contractors have been using it for 60 years in house and marina construction. Some of the organizations using LifeTime:

    • Parks Canada uses LifeTime in their National Parks.
    • The British Columbia Ministry of Transportation uses & approves LifeTime.
    • The Province of Alberta, Canada uses LifeTime for treating wooden roadside sound barrier fencing.
    • The Canadian Department of Natural Resources uses LifeTime.
    • Many construction contractors and log home builders are now using LifeTime in Canada and the U.S
    We'll see....
     
  6. Phil A

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    I'd see what the soil association has to say about it first.

    In the meantime, you need bog oak, so pop down the levels & find a farmer that wants to get rid of some.
     
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    Funny! I started in the decorating trade in 1945 and retired in 1994 and I have never seen or heard of it. I was Regional Secretary for the National Federation of Master Painters (now the British Decorators Association) for a time so was "well in" with the trade.

    I notice that most of the references are regarding Canada. The Canadian climate, apart from the coastal areas, is much drier than ours.
     
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    Smoke and mirrors :D :thmb:.

    Best and cheapest in my experience is decking timber, and buy the thickest and widest you can find!


    Otherwise it's the :flag:

    Cheers!
     
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    No one has mentioned the quality of the wood on which any product is used. The denser the wood the longer it should last. These days any produced timber is mostly "from renewable sources" which means it's from fast growing trees, pretty soft and therefore more vulnerable to rot.
    Even "hard wood" these days "isn't."

    What you need is "pitch pine" but you can't get it these days.
     
  10. Liz W

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    Well, first of all, the powder diluted okay. We bought 5 litres spring water, as it recommends distilled for long term storage, and this seemed the next best thing, though it probably won't last long. It painted on really well, dried quickly and has quickly silvered the wood. It looks okay to me. Some Canadians, apparently, use it in docks so it will be interesting to see how it fairs under ground.
     
  11. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Sounds like a very good preservative if it needs to be mixed with distilled water otherwise it goes off if you store it.
    Are you sure they are not having a joke?:)
     
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    Sounds a bit iffy to me. I'll stick wth my railway sleepers, they'll certainly see me out. There are different grades you can buy depending on how old they are and consequently how much butchumin they still contain.
    Hope it works for you.
    John
     
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    Hya Liz, for the sake of £20 its not worth all the worry, nothing ventured nothing gained.
    I can remember when QVC first started with the DIY with Harry Green slot on a Sunday.
    One Sunday morning he was selling these cheep plastic clamps, I thought they look handy although was very skeptical to how long they would last within regular joinery use.
    So I bought them anyhow, they only cost £24 with postage so worth a gamble I thought and you got 2 of the clamps and 2 heavy duty spring clips.

    Guess what I still have them approximately 20 years on and wouldn't be without them now:old:
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