Now it's ASDA killing sparrows!

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  1. jjordie

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    It is happening again, this time at Asda Store, Great Yarmouth:

    This is a report from the local Evening News today:
    Bird lovers are outraged that marksmen could be called in
    to shoot two sparrows holed up in an Asda store.
    Bosses at the store are so fed up with the unwelcome visitors
    that they have obtained a special licence to kill the birds
    - but so far they can't catch them.


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    Makes you feel like lying in wait for the bosses to come out !!
     
  3. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Probably find that if the store cant get rid of them the enviromental health people will stop them trading.
    Such is the way of things today, we can be fed chemicals in our food but they must be sterile chemicals.
     
  4. Hornbeam

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    Sparrows are in massive decline so perhaps they will become an endangered species before ASDA slaughters them. Where oh where are we going and why?
     
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    Over the years that I grew up in,Skylarks,Mistle
    and Song Thrushes,all the Finches,Blackbirds,
    Linnets,Warblers ,House and Hedge sparrows ,and many others were common place in my garden,sadly now they have all but dissapeared.Now Magpies
    Seagulls and pigeons,I have created a wildlife garden(still ongoing)Which is slowly bringing them back.
    I look at my surrounding gardens of which I should say 80% are slabbed or concrete.This used to be the Garden of England,Now its The Garden
    of Motorways and Concrete,Everyones in a rush ,nobody see,s whats around them anymore,But i fear its too late now,The only problem is that
    others will reap what we are now sowing.
    Sorry about this ,i am going on a bit,Its just that I feel strongly about this Topic.

    [ 09. December 2006, 06:30 PM: Message edited by: wiseoldowl ]
     
  6. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I see we come from the same neck of the woods wiseoldowl, gotta say, over the last few years we really have seen our share of new concrete. :mad:
     
  7. Hornbeam

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    I'm with you WOO. We have destroyed 50% of our ancient and semi-natural woodland over the last 50 years. Our farmland is constantly sprayed and so intensively ploughed and sown with winter wheat that farmland birds cannot nest and raise their young. Not surprising that so many once common birds are vanishing fast.

    There are hopeful sign however. More farmers are going organic and subsidised set aside land helps. We gardeners collectively manage an enormous acreage of land. If only we all banned chemicals and concrete in our gardens we could make the vital difference.
     
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    You would think they could get them out without killing them..I had one fly in the house a few weeks ago and i just scooped him up and out he went..I hate cruelty to birds.. :mad: :mad:
     
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    Maybe they should get a cat!! :D :D
    Perhaps a better idea would be to close the store to preserve the sparrows.
     
  10. Waco

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    not supporting ASDA, but you can't win, if they don't get rid of them someone will start banging on about bird flu!

    We have an terrible dilemma with bats at our local church, they have done so much damage that the church is in danger of having to close.

    Its a funny old world we live in!
     
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    but- bats are protected aren't they and can be relocated in some cases with the proper help I believe.
     
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    We have got our local MP to take matter to parliament - done everything, but the bats have to stay. Their huge ammount of droppings make the church unable to be used without hours of cleaning prior to a service. two old ladies have been seriously ill from attending a service, its a real mess, sad really particularly as there is a man made bat hibernacle just up the road for them.
     
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    Should it not be a bat tabernacle? Seeing as it is a church.
    I am with the bats on this one. They are at a very delicate stage and disturbance would wipe out the colony and about 90% have disappeared in recent years. They do have massive protection cause they are so easily wiped out - its �£10,000 fine for each bat affected so a colony involves a massive potential fine.
    If they are making such a mess then it must be a large colony and probably one of the rarer species. I doubt whether pipistrelles would be doing that.
    It may be that that colony is the only one around for a long, long distance.
     
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    The bats will and should take total presedence you should be appreciating them we have bats in our hay barn so we just cover the hay with sheets to keep the muck off. as for Asda a good way to stop them is to get lots of people to write threatening to withdraw their custom if the birds are killed and threaten to leaflet all customers on their way in to the store then suggest a suitable alternative by catching them in a live catching trap (very easy if you get the right person) and ask for a prompt reply let them know that if they catch the birds unharmed you not carry any malice toward them but if they don't let them know you will tell everyone at work /in your neighbourhood etc..
     
  15. Hornbeam

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    It's all down to daft laws and no common sense. There was an item on television recently about damage done by bats in churches. Sure - bats are protected and rightly so. But - you can have them removed if they roost in a house - but not in a church It is an oversight in the wording of the law. Now, some churches are trying to get the wording reworded so that they can get the bats removed. That is one strategy, another is to get a church reclassifed as a house pro tem. Typical bit of legal stupidity.

    Surprised the Health and Safety Gestapo haven't closed your church Waco
     
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