now leaving school at 17

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  1. intermiplants

    intermiplants Gardener

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    starting today any teenagers joining high school wont be able to leave till aged 17 what do you think about this...i havnt read it fully but shall be doin:thumb:
     
  2. Pro Gard

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    Intresting, the isue is can the extra year give any benefit....... At 16 I was working, earning money and doing some mutch needed growing up. I doubt another school year would have benefited me, I was certainly sick of it when I left.
     
  3. intermiplants

    intermiplants Gardener

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    yep same ere pro working at sixteen and paying keep so it wouldnt have benefited me either but for the kid that thinks he or she can just finish school and doss it may be a goo idea till they grow up a bit more..i will read the full info on it befor i give my view...think its only in england for the time being:thumb:
     
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    I saw that on the news also .. because we have a large dish .... :D

    Bit like America now where t'other half is from so ....

    I lieft school in 1963 aged 15 with 8 O levels .... actually got them when I was 14 but wasn't allowed to leave school because I was too young ??????? Went to college in America immediately... still hold the record for the youngest in that college me'thinks ... okay, so I'm a clever clogs .... :rolleyes:

    What I found interesting was that they are changing things where those who are more 'intelligent' are put in a different level. Hello, that's what they did in the late 50s / early 60s ....

    .... it's just like the fashions coming back again .....
     
  5. Kandy

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    I left school when I was 14 and started work on my 15th Birthday:eek: because the law in 1971 was that you were not allowed to work until you were 15 and as my Birthday fell on a Monday my new boss said to start then.I had to have a medical and was told I was the youngest worker in the whole company :p:o

    Anyway,I don't think I benefited from my education because I could already read and write before I started school at aged five and all through my school years we had £sd. Yards Feet and Inches, lbs and oz. pints,qrts gills etc drummed into our heads for all those years only to have Decimiliaztion{spelling}thrown at us in the February as I left school in the July of that year so have had to learn all this new money,and I still at times revert to the old money in my head when I see the price of things.I am sure that was when this country started going down hill:eek:

    I have learnt more by sticking my head in books and learning to use a computer than what I did going to school.:)

    I think the kids these days are lucky in one way with all the computers at their finger tips but something appears to have happened to their brains because when you go shopping they look and talk to you like they are from a different planet or high on something.At least we could converse with adults when we were their age.:)

    They were saying on the radio that in some countries the kids don't go to school until they are six and then stay on longer when they are older instead of forcing them to attend school when they are far too young.

    I also think this learning by play is a good thing as well.I have taught my friends daughter how to use a camera and she now enjoys taking photos of her parents and older brother and can even use the video part of the camera,and for a five year old some of the photos she has taken are brilliant,even better than some of the ones that I take:cool:.School would have considered her too young to learn about cameras:rolleyes:
     
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    It's hard enough to get some kids to stay in school until they are 16 let alone 17.
    If they want to go to school thats fine , but IMO the ones that have no interest should be put on some sort of training scheme outside school.
    They just disrupt the rest if they are made to go, thats if you can get them there.
    I also think children start school to early.
    My Grandson being born in July was just 5 when he started.
    I think 6 is soon enough , school can be traumatic to some young children.
    I hated school and left at 15.
    All I remember from school was being afraid, bullied by the other children and teachers and worrying about everything.
    I to have learnt more since having a computer and doing it myself.
     
  7. intermiplants

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    well after a long hard think my view is that keeping some kids at school till 17 is a huge mistake as they will only disrupt others that want to learn..so for me keepeing them against there will is a huge mistake, if they want to leave at 14 15 let em go as they will never understand the mistake till later life...kids leave now at 16 and are fine looks like its just a cover up and not really getting to the root of the problem of some of our problem children,this is going to open a right old can of worms:eek: i think the ones that go into further education now is great if they can get a part time job to help themselves and if a kid can get a job now straight from school and pay keep then great..but now it looks like the kid that doesnt want to do either is going to be forced to do another year at school...and yes on our taxpayers money:mad:
     
  8. Shobhna

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    I'd have loved to have stayed on at school till I was 17 and then gone on to University etc...certainly had the grades for it, instead, I left school when just over 15 and started work aged 15 years and 7 months. Had to do this so my brothers could go to University....Mum and I needed to be earning to help pay their fees etc....

    I believe that it will help if the youngsters have to stay at school till they are 17.:)
     
  9. Little Miss Road Rage

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    I think some people are academic and others are more practical. My dad don't spell too good and his maths is bad too but ask him to build a house or do something of a practical nature and he does it spot on. I was good at school, college and went on to further studies because I wanted to. I don't think forcing kids to study if they don't want to is a good idea as it takes a lot of hard work and sacrifices to get there. But they shouldn't be allowed to sit on the bums doing nothing. They need to get a job if they want to leave school early.
     
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    Hmm! Quoting what we did when we were younger isn't really relevant. The world has turned many times since then. I think the G'ment is trying to say that you need academic qualifications to be "successful". Probably correct in the society that we live in. But not everyone is going to be a stockbrocker.
    I like the idea that you can get qualifications in practical skills while you're at school. PG, wouldn't it have been nice if you could have had qualifications in using a chainsaw before you had to actually use one?
     
  11. intermiplants

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    caj:D:D do you think its another cop out i think maybe only a handfull that for whatever reason wont go for further education or get a jod ..i dont think we can make these do another year.. leave them send them packing and let them doss at home..i no way brand all kids but im not happy if a kid wants to do nothing then why keep them against the will.....it will probably be s****ped after the first year through stabbings :eek:
     
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    Interesting thread. My fella wanted to stay on at school and better himself so to speak. But because he came from a large family his mam wanted him to leave school and make a contribution to the family. He left school in the late sixties. Things are probably different today. 02
     
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    My vote is kid should stay in hight school until 18 and then go to college. In todays arena unless you chose a trade school college is a must. College helps to round out and open horizons for young folks. Staying at home does not supply the broad scope of learning and interest that college can expose one to.
     
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    thats all very well but i read an article saying that some parents cant get the kids to school at 15 never mind 17..i know what you mean redstar...just cant see how it is going to work:thumb:
     
  15. lollipop

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    My son starts his GCSEs this year (4th yr in old money), they have adopted a new vocational training element to GCSEs. He hasn`t chosen any of them, but I thought it was worth mentioning.


    They are considering reducing the age at which you start school to 4 yrs, instead of 5yrs too.


    When I speak to people from other counries-especially about their education system, I realise ours is pretty poor overall. I don`t understand how a 12 yr old can be a bad speller let alone a 17 yr old-of course barring any learning difficulties.
     
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