Overweight Dog Lands Owner In Court

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  1. Kandy

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    I have just seen this report on the Net but what I can't understand is that this man is taken to court for allowing his pet dog to get fat,and yet there are thousands of dogs being kept in appalling conditions by the puppy farm breeders and yet they don't seem to be taken to court to be prosecuted:mad: I peruse the Many Tears dog rescue pages and the state that some of the dogs are in when handed to the pounds and then onto the rescue centres makes me want to weep and yet nothing is done to these so called animal lovers:(

    I even signed one of those Downing Street petitions to get them banned but nothing was done about it.I expect while folks have to have the Must have dog of the fashion then thousands of pounds will be made by those sort of people who don't give a damn about the dogs they breed from and what happens to them when they have served their time,inseminating or giving birth.A lot of those dogs must surly be so mentally traumatised by the conditions they have lived in that they can never go on to live a normal dogs life and I have seen where some of them have had to be handed back to Many Tears because they have attacked the new owners dogs or have nipped a child.:(

    Anyway,here is the Link.....
    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090513/tuk-overweight-dog-lands-man-in-court-6323e80.html
     
  2. rosa

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    kandy just looked at that link that border collie doesnt look overweight to me on the other hand i dont agree with have dog fecies all over his flat doesnt matter how poorly you are mess can be picked up, think theres more to this than meets the eye also the dogs claws are overgrown which isnt good a trip to the parlour doesnt cost that much.
     
  3. lollipop

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    It wasn't just because the dog was fat, the entire place was full of dog faeces, but I take your point.


    You have reminded me of something though. Where do the RSPCA get off with that advert they have at the moment about when you die they will look for a home for them ( of course for a minor donation)? Isn't that what they are meant toi be doing anyway?
     
  4. Sam1974x

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    I would also agree that the dog doesnt look THAT fat to me. Collies though (I have one of my own) do need a lot of excerise and given that they can pretty much eat as much as they like as they burn off so much anyway. Keeping the weight on them is usually harder when they have lots of excerise and most collies tend to look a bit on the thin side, in my opinion.

    Living in such conditions is unthinkable when you have two dogs of your own but sadly all too common in todays society. I would be quite happy for it to go back to the old days where you had to buy a dog license - might stop a fair few people getting a cute puppy due to all the extra costs involved!

    Maybe they struggle to take someone to court just for the mess a dog is living in, so used the "fat dog" as an option as it was easier to posecute ?
     
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    The dog licence was relatively cheap if I remember rightly. The breeding of pets for profit should be banned totally in my own opinion. The homes are full to bursting with unwanted pets that need homes-but perhaps they don't carry that "certain cache".
     
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    Hi Rosa,I reckon this chap has been taken to court under that new pets welfare Act that came out I think last year where the owners have the responsibility to care for their pets.In the last two years of her life Tina's claws got a bit long as she was no longer able to walk on the pavements whiich always kept her claws short,but after a trip to the vets and the state we were both in covered in blood,I refused to let them do it any more and used to just cut them as best as I could while Stuart held her and used proper pet nail clippers.They never got so long as to cause her discomfort.

    My sister recently paid £600 for a Lab pup from a proper dog breeder who has Crufts certificates and Trophys etc and the dogs and pups lived in a house with dog poo in most of the rooms and the house stunk of dog urine,eeek.I would have walked straight back out again but they had driven all the way to Cornwall and my sister had set her heart on having the pup....{By the way,I am not saying this is how all breeders keep their dogs}

    Lollipop,do you think the RSPCA actually keep the dogs in proper run kennels or do they have fosterers who look after the pets of people that have passed away?This is one reason why we haven't rushed out to get an other dog to replace Tina because we have no children and none of mine or Mr Kandy's relatives would take the dog on so for the moment we just have the two cats and the Guneia Pig and are hoping that we out live them,though we did have a cat that was nearly twenty two when she went over the rainbow bridge:)

    Here is the Link for Many Tears and there is a very overweight dog{Lab} on there perhaps the owner should have been prosecuted as well}
    http://www.dogpages.org.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=46987&st=20
     
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    I don't know how they do it-that's why I find the notion of two different levels of care difficult to comprehend. I would hope that they give the same level of care to all animals who come threir way and this is just another way to drive up fundraising-I hope that's the case anyway.


    Your sister should still report the breeder, although like you I would have just walked straight back if it was conceivable for me to even consider parting with money for a breed.
     
  8. Sam1974x

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    I have no idea how much a dog license was, just remember by mum buying one :)

    Problem is if you stop bredding for profit, then you are going to end up with people who cant afford to buy a dog, getting one purely because they are free.

    Bring back the license, RSPCA home checks before license is issued and a yearly charge. That way only people who could afford to care for the dog, should be allowed to keep one.

    Kennels insist on doing home checks before they allow someone to rehome a dog, so why shouldnt everyone have to follow that before they are allowed a dog ? Home checks are done for a reason obviously.
     
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    I have no idea how old you are Kandyfloss, so excuse me if these comes across wrong .....

    But you could always make it part of the will. Whoever gets the house gets the dog :)

    People who say they would never have a dog often do. My mum for instance has ended up with my sisters dog as she seperated from her partner and couldnt keep the rented house on. My mum was adamant that she wasnt having another dog (after loosing her own) ...... two months later 'harvey' has the run of the house and my mum is cooking chicken breasts for the dog and says we cant have any for a sandwhich!!!

    She has now become 'nanny' .... so for someone who never wanted the dog she has done all that, without someone offering her money :)
     
  10. Kandy

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    I get a bit fed up with these adverts about Pet Plans and Funeral Plans etc.A relative of my f-i-l had one of those funeral plans that she had paid into for years and has passed away recently.I wonder how they calculate how much the funeral is going to cost x number of years down the line and also if the person paying out each month pays too much into the plan over the years what happens to any money left over after the person has passed away?Same for the pet plans I should think.I would rather put some money aside in a savings account and then it will be there when needed.There always seems to be someone wanting to take all our hard earned money away from us in one way or another...

    There was case some time back where a breeder and Crufts winner was prosecuted for the appaling conditions she kept her show dogs in and I told my sister she was daft paying £600 for a look a like Pedigree dog.Give me a mongrel any day:D

    Now I must go as I have my expense sheet to fill out to see what I can claim for:hehe::D
     
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    kandy looking at that link the dogs look fine certain dogs can get fat but in my view that collie doesnt look that fat age has a lot to do with a dog putting on a bit weight, my rosa is nearly 5 and shes put on a bit of weight but cavaliers are known to put weight on, i watch her claws on a regular basis and i certainly wouldnt allow her to do her business in my home.thers no need for it and in my view that is neglect, iff the guy is elderly and not well maybe he should be given a bit of slack but iff hes fine and ignored the welfare of his dogs he deserves everything he gets
     
  12. Kandy

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    Sam I was born in 19x6 so am a little older than you:D

    One of my older sisters would never have a dog and when she and her husband and kids visited any other family members houses they alwys wore old clothes which she would wash as soon as they got home in case they had picked up any dog hairs or slobber etc,but guess what,when her hubby died of Cancer and she was left all on her own she immediatley went out and bought a Golden Lab that has the full run of the house plus lays all over her bed and she treats it like a child:D and to top it all her son has got a dog as well:lollol:

    My parents have both passed away all my other siblings have all got their own dogs cats etc,and no way would Mr Kandy's sister have a dog because she suffers with OCD and would be washing her hands more times a day than she does now.:p

    Actually it is nice at the moment to be able to go on holiday and visit Stately Homes and their gardens and shops without the worry of standing outside shops in the rain or not being able to enjoy the homes and gardens because of the no dogs policy which we were unable to do for the fifteen years that we had Tina so there are pro's and con's for keeping any animal:)
     
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    Being a good dog owner has very little to do with money Sam. Being well off doesn't make you a good person- or a good dog owner.

    And I wouldn't say that people would get a dog just because they are free, or that they are less deserving of one, or less capable of looking after one, because they can't afford hundreds of pounds to buy one.

    There are good and bad people in all sorts of financial circumstances. The whole idea of breeding for money is corrupt at it's core.

    There are some people who just genuinely like a certain breed-I, for instance, just love German Shepherds-best dogs in the world I think, and these people are in the majority I do accept. But some people just want others to think they have the money to buy one of the breeds, I reckon this sort should just stick with their range rovers and posh handbags.

    It's how to sort that out that is the conundrum. Money is no yardstick in life.


    Having said that, just reading some of the opinions makes me smile-we are such a good country for animal care in general, you just wouldn't find this sort of story making the news in say Mexico or Spain.
     
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    Kandy-I think you missed out a certain number................I will choose to assume you meant 1986 of course. :-)
     
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    I do totally agree, there are pro's and con's .... Just couldnt imagine not having a dog :)

    They are certainly a lot more welcoming after a day at work than any of the 4 kids lol

    They usually greet you before asking for anything
    They are always excited to see you, instead of the grunts you get off teenagers
    They never complaint they need expensive brands, instead of anything that might be in the sale
    and more importantly, they never ever complain if you burn the dinner slightly cause you left it cooking while watering the garden :)
     
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