pc gone mad ?

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  1. music

    music Memories Are Made Of This.

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    todays news.pc-mad plonkers,at the bbc have changed the end of
    "humpty dumpty" on cbeebies. rather than "couldnt put humpty together again">> all the kings horses and all the kings men
    "made humpty happy again". the powers that be ,thought this ending would be less distressing and horrific for kids!.

    do we go on to> three blind mice,three blind mice,
    see how they run,see how they run,
    they all ran after the farmers wife,
    who kindly directed them to the nearest laser eye clinic and their vision has now been miraculously restored!!!.
    is pc going to far? music.:cool::thumb:
     
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    I was once getting a lift somewhere with my dad. A nursery rhyme tape was playing for the benefit of my young niece who was with us. I wasn't particularly listening, but the ending of the three little pigs suddenly caught my attention and before my brain had time to stop my mouth, I'd piped up "That's not what happens!".

    With the three pigs, still alive and well and taking refuge in the 3rd, brick house, the wolf realises he can't get in and trots off disappointed. Not a single mention of boiling soup or hapless wolves coming down the chimney and failing to realise that said boil soup was waiting for him in the fire place.

    But that's not the worst of it. I read a recent version of the three billy goats gruff while checking out what story books were out there ready for my little son. The first two goats ran from the troll and were not gobbled up at all, then the third, the large billy goat got angry at the troll's bullying and came along and had a stern word with the troll, who saw the error of his ways and agreed to behave.

    Its an outrage is what it is. How dare the PC brigade feed our children such factually incorrect tales:)
     
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    These are guys who know absolutely smeg-all about children.:wink: The blood-thirsty little monsters love the "being eaten,being chopped up" stories. Show a young child, with no prior knowledge, a picture of a lion chasing an antelope and the child knows the lion will kill the antelope. I saw this story and for a bit of fun, I tried it with my 4yr g-son. Answer, "how did they make him happy?". My kids much prefer the unnoficial version. "All the kings horses and all the kings men, had scrambled eggs for tea" . Cracks them up:D
     
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    Allegedly, humpty dumpty was the nickname of a larger than usual cannon which was mounted on a fortress wall. It never saw active service because on test firing the the recoil threw it back off the wall, causing it to smash to bits when it hit the floor from a great height.

    I know one thing, my son is going to get the proper version of all the tales. I can imagine in a few years time getting letters from the school about how he's upset the other kids with his gory stories of trolls eating billy goats, pigs being eaten by wolves, and wolves being boiled in soup. Kids being eating by wolves disguised as sweet old grannies, kids being eaten by wicked witches having got lost in the woods and stumbling upon a house made of sweets, and then there's my favourite, The Magic Paintbrush. I've already bought the original ladybird book of that one. In short, it tells the story of a kid whose paintings become real who is abducted and enslaved by the chinese emperor. At the end of the story the kid paints a big storm while the emperor is out sailing:)
     
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    I heard about this humpty dumpty nonsense! :help: my kids have always had the uncensored versions of things and they've not turned into quivering emotional wrecks! nor are they serial killers in the making (I hope!) :hehe:

    Some people really do have too much time on their hands to be worrying about this rubbish!
     
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    Humpty shouldn't have sat on that wall in the first place unless it had a sign saying it was safe to do so!!
    The Mice are Optically Challenged anyway NOT blind!!

    Seriously though, what a sad world we live in where a few woolyheads are trying to sanitise and anethetise our young and stop them from having a normal childhood.:mad:
     
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    heres another couple. old mother hubbard went to the cupboard
    to get her poor doggy a bone.
    when she got there the cupboard was bare
    but that wasnt a problem because the fridge was full of food and the dog ate
    handsomely.:wink:

    ding dong bell
    pussys in the well:wink:
    but dont panic,shes wearing a body harness and is in the capable hands of experts with years of pot- holing experience!!.:wink:
     
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    Baa Baa sheep whose colour is irrelevant
    Have you any wool
    Yes person of equal standing, yes person of equal standing
    Three bags full
    One for the equal rights employer
    One for the individual that was honoured my the monarch
    And one for the young person that lives down the lane
     
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    good one clueless!!:gnthb:
     
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    Mrs W and I have each spent nearly 40 years in primary education. Kids LOVE gory and slightly 'rude' poems and stories and it doesn't do them any harm at all. They can easily distinguish imagination from reality. Two real favourites we read to kids were Little Red Riding Hood and the Wolf by Roald Dahl, where the kids loved the bit where RRH 'whips a pistol from her knickers' and kills the wolf. The other one is 'The Lesson' by Roger McGough about a teacher struggling with a difficult class and who resorts to some rather gory methodology and is supported by the Head who chucks in a hand grenade! - "Read it again Miss, please"

    The week after Mrs W had introduced the latter poem there was a splash in the local paper about about parental complaints and a teacher being disciplined for exposing a class to such horrors.

    Regarding nursery rhymes - Little Jack Horner will probably be prohibited once the PC brigade realise the Health and Safety implications of sticking a thumb into a pie of uncertain temperature which may contain nuts.

    Kids love it. Stuff the PC brigade >
    http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-lesson/

    http://oldpoetry.com/opoem/61673-Roald-Dahl-Little-Red-Riding-Hood-and-the-Wolf
     
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    I was thinking about this, not just the sanitised nursery ryhme thing, but the general obsession with the idea that nothing that could be construed as nasty should ever been mentioned to kids.

    I can't help but wonder if that attitude is a contributory factor in kids going off the rails. Before you all laugh at me, here's my logic:

    Kids know all too well that there are nasty things in the world. Whether they've had a set-to after school with a bigger kid, or someone has taunted them, or they've just seen a spider jabbing its fangs into a fly or whatever, they can see for themselves that the world has a dark side.

    They want to talk to someone who understands and might be able to offer some explanation of what they've just witnessed. Who do they talk to? The adults are clearly in cloud cuckoo land, they rant on about trolls receiving a stern talking to by a billy goat, or people trying to cheer up humpty dumpty who is clearly smashed to bits having fallen off the wall. In the kid's mind, people like this aren't going to understand reality. So who do they seek guidance from in times of doubt? Other kids, who haven't had the life experience to offer guidance.

    Picture the scene. A kid tells the teacher that a bigger kid is bullying them. Teacher tells bully victim that bully is misguided and needs a friend, and standing up to them and saying 'No' in a firm voice will make everything alright. Kid thinks that doesn't sound right, that's not how real life works, so goes to mates. Between them they conclude that adults can't help because they don't understand, and in secret they form their own strategy. Bully suddenly finds himself outnumbered in an ambush and gets beaten to within an inch of his life. Bully isn't going to tell, because who would understand? So now the tables are turned, he decides to even the odds a bit and takes a knife with him next time.

    Ok, that sounds a bit far fetched I know. I'm not aiming to build a technically accurate scenario, my point is that if adults persist in alienating themselves from kids by showing a totally unrealistic and unbelievable left wing view of reality, then what chance is there that kids will look up to and respect adults for their wisdom?
     
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    I think it is hilarious that someone would think a troll getting a good talking to might be better than a troll getting killed the big billy goat. I always thought the moral of the story was about being bullied-a lesson to would-be bullies that there is always someone bigger than you-and the consequences sometimes being a bit stronger than a good talking to.

    It's ridiculous.
     
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    What a great thread! It's made me smile & nearly reduced me to tears, what an idiotic world we live in!

    Thanks all I love it.

    cheers
     
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