Plant finder/suggest some plants for me?

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  1. daisybelle

    daisybelle Gardener

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    I have designed my garden all wrong. I have only planted things with blue flowers, which I like. I'm not a fan of structural plants, so there are none in my garden. Consequently, the border looks a bit of a disaster. I'm gradually coming round to the idea of having some structural stuff, but don't know what there is.
    I've used plant finders on crocus and bbc and got a few ideas, but thought you good people might be able to help too?
    Here are the criteria-

    *Small-the border is only 1m deep by 3.3m long although they can be tall, up to about 5ft.
    *Evergreen
    *Foliage colour green, bluey/grey/silver or brown/orangey. NOT yellow or limey (eeew!)
    *For shade/light shade (for most of the year, the whole thing is in shade. In summer, most of it gets shade for part of the day)
    *Flowers (if any) blue/purple or white

    Soil is fairly heavy, low maintenance stuff preferred.
    Ideas so far are browny/orange heuchera, astelia, barberry, moorgrass and hebe.

    Thanks for any help :)
     
  2. Slinky

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    Any chance of a few pics to work with Daisy? ;)
     
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    Gosh, there are so many types of conifer that you could use some tall and conical, some round, some horizontally inclined. Some golden, some glauca, some just green. I would suggest a website on conifers would be best suited to your needs. Choose some different colour and size and shape conifers and then perhaps a varigated holly and or cotoneaster. Mahonia Aquafolium is lovely with its yellow flowers and purple berries. The world is your oyster just have fun on the web. Its amazing what you will come up with if you just key in 'evergreen shrubs'.
     
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    Daisy, two that spring to mind immediately are, Ceanothus ( Californian Lilac ) and Perovskia ( Russian Sage)>
     
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    Here you go Slinky
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    It's a sorry sight at the moment :(
    Moyra, I forgot to mention I'm not a conifer fan, but I think I could take a couple of the bluey ones.
    You've both surprised me with your suggestions, because they're all things I'd consider to be too big?
    Dai, I love the look of the russian sage, but most websites say it needs full sun?
     
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    Daisy, it will take light shade no problem.:thumb:
     
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    Daisy - its not very big. If you have a couple of shrubs you could fill it. My first reaction would be to run some wires across the panels and grow two or three Clematis. You will get some structure as they grow upwards, but they have a negligable footprint. The border currently looks a bit square and bare. I have given my borders a curved front - perhaps bowed out for you. It gives a bit more space for plants and makes it look less austere.

    My own interest is in perennials (reasonably low maintenance). I would try to get some different shapes. For instance :

    ... Spikey clumps: Hemerocallis (day lilly), Crocosmia, Kniphofia (red hot poker - perhaps too big).
    ... Tall spikes: Aconitum (moonkshood), Alcea (hollyhock), Delphinium, Eupatorium purpurea (joe pye weed), Verbena bonariensis (not exactly spikey - but a first rate see through plant).
    ... Medium spikes: Allium bulbs for early season (hollondicum, christophii and sphaerocephalon are my favorites), Astilbe, Campanula persicifolia, Liatris spicata, any perennial Lobelia - 'Queen Victoria' has lovely purple leaves, Salvia 'Mystic Spires' (one of my most favorite - upright and very long flowering).
    ... Flat heads : Achillea, Echinacea
    ... Mound forming : perennial Geranium (many species - but my favorite is Patricia - its sterile and very long flowering), Salvia microphylla (two foot high shrub - flowers for six months of the years)
    ... Others (very long flowering) : Astrantia (masterwort), Centranthus (red valerian), Helenium, and some of the tender perennials - Pelargonium (geranium), Osteopermum, Argyranthemum, Felicia etc
    ... Floppy : Nepeta fasenii (catmint)
    ... Weavers (weave through other plants) : Geranium 'Ann Folkard', Verbena ' Homestead Purple'.
     
  8. daisybelle

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    Thanks Peter, plenty to look at there :) I esp. like the Verbena ' Homestead Purple', Verbena bonariensis and Salvia 'Mystic Spires'. I have a few of your suggestions already.
    Are any of them evergreen?
    What I'm confused about is, looking from the right of the border, the first big clump is ox eye daisies, then the next thing, to about halfway along, is geranium johnson's blue. Huge at the minute, but nothing through the winter. But I can't plant anything evergreen there as it would be smothered once the geranium came out again?
    I like the idea of a bowed front to the border, although that would mean rethinking my last ditch attempt at keeping cats off (another thread entirely)Salvia 'Mystic Spires'
    I do intend putting a clematis in too, but as ever, it can't be one that needs full sun :(
     
  9. chobart

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    Daisybelle - perennials are not normally evergreen but people like to plant those which carry seed heads in the Winter like Helenium and others. Pachysandra is a good shade /low growing evergreen which could live alongside your geraniums and Dicentra brings plenty of colour in the shade but of course dies back in the winter. Clematis in my garden grow quite happily in the shade so far but only been here for 9 months (one is Mrs Mcorquedale - forgive the spelling ).

    Best of luck in sorting it out......
     
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    Just got back from holiday, and while there I bought
    huechera fireworks
    heuchera creme brulee
    phormium jester
    sea holly
    bronze fennel
    lamium
    I think in winter, when it's all dormant, I need to have a real sort out. Just found out my geranium and borage will grow in the shade, so I shall be moving them.
     
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