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[ 17. March 2007, 05:10 PM: Message edited by: lisa0307 ]

 

Lisa - thanks for the message - this confirms all my own feelings about vaccines. I am cautious by nature regarding this type of treatment and always feel that if it isn't actually required - don't do it!

 

[ 17. March 2007, 05:11 PM: Message edited by: lisa0307 ]

 

I read the story, and whilst appalled and sorry for the owner of this dog, the story did not add up clinically.

My previous cavaliers and my two cats were vaccinated annually, and my current pup will be too. Whilst there is always a slight risk with any vaccination, whether it be for dog, cat, or indeed child - the risk of not doing so is just too great a one for me to take.

I have seen what distemper and parvovirosis does and I would never forgive myself if my dog contracted an avoidable disease like these or leptospirosis, for the slight risk of a hypersensitive reaction - which is unlikely to be the case with Spangles. Especially for a dog - whose nose and mouth goes everywhere that it shouldn't :D

A hypersensitive reactions is unlikely to be the case with Spangles, from the description from the owners, whilst not adding up clinically this is broadly similar to an overwhelming infection, a septacaemia - and unlikely to be linked to the vaccination unless the vet was using filthy disposable needles again and again.

 

I agree with you 100% Fran. It's much like the debacle over the mmr for kids. People these days just do not know the horrors of measles or mumps and it's very frequent consequences. When you place these few cases against the millions of dogs and cats that are alive today because they're been protected against their species diseases, it rather falls into perspective.

Plus my cat is a PAT cat and they won't let him visit unless he's vaccinated, de-flead and wormed regularly. But then he always is.

 

We put our cats in a cattery,when we go away,so have no choice but to vaccinate.Lots of friends in our village have offered to look after them while we are away,but I would hate to come back home and find they had been run over...
We used to have our Tina vaccinated as a matter of course and then for the last little while when she went to kennels they started insisting on a Kennel Cough Vaccination,which they dropped on us a couple of weeks before we went away...
I don't know whether having them done every year helps,but I certainly wouldn't want the guilt if they did catch something...

[ 26. January 2007, 09:50 AM: Message edited by: Kandyfloss ]

 

very interesting yet very sad stories, makes you wonder iff we are doing the right thing by vaccinations, yet iff we dont they could catch something as kandy has pointed out iff we need to put our pets in kennels we could end up with more problems.

 

The longest-lived dog (16+ years) in my family, who we first got in 1953 never had one of these injections in her life. Nor did she have special pet food.
My last pet dog was still soldiering on until the vet diagnosed Cushing's disease and prescribed a course of treatment for her. A couple of capsules was enough...the dog started vomiting, became weak and refused food. Two weeks of suffering, being put on drips etc., transpired before the inevitable came about.
We have to be so careful with modern drugs and put our faith in the vet (or Doctor's) ability to prescribe correctly.

 

If more people stop vaccinating their pets, the incidence of parvovirus, distemper etc will increase, in the same way as measles and mumps is now. Leptospirosis is of couse always there, as indeed are the rats.

Cases where pets have not been vaccinated, and lived to a ripe old age, are kinda like the tale like "my grandfather smoked 20 a day and lived til he was 90". Lucky gent, lucky pet. Luck is a very fickle lady - I trust her not one inch.

 

[ 17. March 2007, 05:12 PM: Message edited by: lisa0307 ]

 

[ 17. March 2007, 05:13 PM: Message edited by: lisa0307 ]

 

Lisa you have your view, it is not one I share.

 

[ 17. March 2007, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: lisa0307 ]

 

I wish there was some organisation that could look into these kind of things and give a truthfull unbiased oppinion.
I tried to get a tetanus jab sometime back and was told I didn't need it by my GP.
Up untill then I had been having one every ten years, I think it was Five years at one stage.
So why suddenly dont I need it? Does it cost the NHS too much or did I not need it in the first place and they got it wrong?
I am 100% sure that money is involved in all medical decisions, wether its animal or human.
I'm no expert, but as I understand it the reason for having flu jabs each year is because the germ mutates each year and is a different strain from the last year.
Are we them expected to accept that the animal diseases are doing this?
When I was a kid I had the usual polio, diptheria jabs, but I've not had any since, I even didn't get the TB one because I was considered immune at the time.
There is always the consience of the pet owner to play with, and thats worth a lot of money these days, so I for one am a bit sceptical about our caring vet practices that seem to be springing up all over with some very smart new premises.