poinsettias

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by plantaholic, Sep 6, 2007.

  1. plantaholic

    plantaholic Gardener

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2007
    Messages:
    47
    Ratings:
    +0
    I may be being niaive but does anyone know if you can grow these yourself as opposed to buying grown plants at Christmas. I know its probably too late this year but I cannot find out much about them!! Maybe they are too much trouble from seed etc! Just thought they'd make nice gifts one year.
    Grateful for any advice
    thanks
    arbarax
     
  2. Victoria

    Victoria Lover of Exotic Flora

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    31,740
    Occupation:
    Lady of Leisure
    Location:
    Messines, Algarve
    Ratings:
    +57,881
    Hello, plantaholic. I think they are very difficult to grow from seed as they need specific conditions, especially to bring their brachts into colour, not only the first time but in subsequent years if you manage to keep them alive.

    In my environment, I grow them outside and they can go to 3 metres and more tall. I cut it back every year to a metre and cuttings root easily with the cut off woody stems.

    We've had several discussions on them here but I don't recall anyone doing them from seed. In fact, I don't know that seeds are actually available.

    They are not hardy so they would have to be kept in a house or better still conservatory or greenhouse as they require a lot of light.

    Hope this helps.
     
  3. UsedtobeDendy

    UsedtobeDendy Gardener

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2006
    Messages:
    5,447
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    Retired teacher and gardener
    Location:
    Falkirk
    Ratings:
    +173
    I thought I was going to get seed fom mine earlier this year, but it didn't happen :(

    If anyone has seeds it would be Chiltern Seeds

    Or try googling on "poinsettia seeds" and see what happens! Good luck if you find any. ;)

    EDIT - just had a look for Euphorbia pulcherrima, and they don't, unfortunately - but they do have loads of other Euphorbias....
     
  4. Victoria

    Victoria Lover of Exotic Flora

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    31,740
    Occupation:
    Lady of Leisure
    Location:
    Messines, Algarve
    Ratings:
    +57,881
    Hi, dendro, long lost friend. I had already looked in Chiltern's catalogue before I posted ...

    To be honest, don't think you can do it from seed ... and surprise if you thought you were going to get some when I don't .... s**t! Only do it from hardwood cuttings here, not softwood I'm afraid.

    Speak soon, my little Scottish thistle. xxxxxx
     
  5. plantaholic

    plantaholic Gardener

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2007
    Messages:
    47
    Ratings:
    +0
    what a shame, seems they are a bit of a pain then! I usually buy a couple anyway for Christmas so nothing to lose if I have a go at cuttings. Many thanks
    Barbarax
     
  6. UsedtobeDendy

    UsedtobeDendy Gardener

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2006
    Messages:
    5,447
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    Retired teacher and gardener
    Location:
    Falkirk
    Ratings:
    +173
    Hi, LoL! Don't think hardwood cttings will work for mine here - not the way I generally do them, sticking them in the garden and forgetting them for a while, that is.....

    My main problem with them is that people keep on giving me them at Christmas, and they like the conditions, so they keep going! I have 3 going strong now! I'm thinking of asking for people to give me only cyclamens this Christmas...

    Plantaholix, do report on how your cuttings go - that would be interesting, even if I daren't do it myself in case I end up with even more! :eek:
     
  7. Victoria

    Victoria Lover of Exotic Flora

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    31,740
    Occupation:
    Lady of Leisure
    Location:
    Messines, Algarve
    Ratings:
    +57,881
    Hi dendro.

    I wouldn't want more than one Poinsettia as they are invasive here ... once you uproot one, you have it for life, a bit like the Passiflora caerula. :eek: I only did the cuttings for friends and neighbours.

    Cyclamen as a gift sounds nice. Mine are blooming again which is the first time this has happened, normally only winter. As I don't water them in the summer I felt guilty so have started watering them again, being the nice person I am. [​IMG]
     
  8. PeterS

    PeterS Total Gardener

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2005
    Messages:
    6,662
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    N Yorks
    Ratings:
    +4,016
    Have a look here http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/todo_now/faqs.php?id=98

    I think the main problem is manipulating the light. Many Salvias will only start to flower once the days start getting shorter,and in a similar way it appears that Poinsettias will only flower (coloured bracts really) when the days start getting longer.
     
  9. Victoria

    Victoria Lover of Exotic Flora

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    31,740
    Occupation:
    Lady of Leisure
    Location:
    Messines, Algarve
    Ratings:
    +57,881
    Hi, long lost friend, PeterS ...

    In my situation, I have to disagree with the Poinsettia theory ... here they start colouring as the days get shorter. [​IMG]

    Hope all is well with you up there.
     
  10. Marley Farley

    Marley Farley Affable Admin! Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    30,588
    Occupation:
    Grandmother Gardener Councillor Homemaker
    Location:
    Under the Edge Zone 8b
    Ratings:
    +14,127
    [​IMG] Have to agree LoL. The shorter days. I found this, it explains pretty well I think...
     
  11. Victoria

    Victoria Lover of Exotic Flora

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    31,740
    Occupation:
    Lady of Leisure
    Location:
    Messines, Algarve
    Ratings:
    +57,881
    It's all cack, sorry.

    ... they live in the poorest soil imaginable here ... 12-14 hours darkness daily for a minimum of two months ... one surely jests! Put the plant in a dark area? :D Here ???????

    They call them two things here ... para a casa (the house one) and para a rua (the road one) but they are one and the same, you just have to get it used to the outside ... and they tolerate frost but will be cut back to the ground and spring back into life because you CANNOT get rid of them. [​IMG]

    Marley, would you like some rooted cuttings to try out there? It would be the Spring before I could send them to you.
     
  12. PeterS

    PeterS Total Gardener

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2005
    Messages:
    6,662
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    N Yorks
    Ratings:
    +4,016
    Hi LoL, I scanned your post, before mine, carefully to see if you said what month they flowered naturally. I felt you had the key, with them growing wild around you. I stand corrected about the days length. I read that they needed to experience short days for a long period before coming out, and interpreted this as responding to a lengthening period of daylight. What months do they flower with you?

    By the way, your Leonotis cutting is looking very bushy and healthy, and Tecomaria seedlings are healthy but still small. They both send their love.
     
  13. Marley Farley

    Marley Farley Affable Admin! Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    30,588
    Occupation:
    Grandmother Gardener Councillor Homemaker
    Location:
    Under the Edge Zone 8b
    Ratings:
    +14,127
    [​IMG] I did try it one year LoL, all the putting in the dark etc. What a palaver...!! Yes I got the red brachts... The next year I forgot all about it & I got pink/red brachts...!!!! In the wild they grow like weeds & will grow into trees of about 10' or so if allowed. I did see some huge poinsettia bushes, nearly trees in Jamaica I have to say...

    In hot countries & in USA where they grow peanuts they have a big problem with wild poinsettias as they will half the crop if not removed.. Apparently they are having problems now as the poinsettias are now becoming resistant to Glyphosate weed killers.... :eek: . They are of course a member of the Euphorbia family & they can really seed...!!!! :eek:

    You can grow them from seed here, if you can get any, they just need plenty of warmth to get them going. Sow in seed compost about 6cms down. Put in airing cupboard. When through bring out into the light... Keep in a warm bright place, preferably NOT a windowsill in this country...! That was what I was told anyway. [​IMG]


    [​IMG] LoL, thanks for the offer of the shoots.... But no thanks..... :D They don't really do allot for me these days as there are other far more interesting plants that I like now instead.... :rolleyes: :D
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice