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  1. PeterS

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    In the Brugmansia thread, Shiney said that he kept all the pots on his patio standing in saucers of water. I have never done that for fear that they could get waterlogged and suffer. But he has set me thinking.

    I think he has a good point. I have some plants like Brugmansia in huge pots where the top of the compost would be at least 12 inches above the water level. As they like lots of water it seems like a good idea.

    Does anyone else do that? And are the saucers permanently full, or just filled up when empty? And what sized pots do you do it for? There is obviously a point where the compost will be permanenty water logged if the pot is too small. And for what plants?
     
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    I've mentioned this elsewhere, we have nearly a dozen 16" or so pots on our patio, all sit in "Sankey Pot Movers" so they're easy to rotate every few days so all sides catch the sun. Or we can "clear" the patio by rolling them to one side if we have guests and want to put a few chairs out. They have the added advantage that they will retain about half an inch of water that can often "track" through the compost when you water them, so the very base of the pot stays moist.
     
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    I've sometimes put a saucer under a large pot of any plant that seems to take endless water, its not something I do as a rule but it doesn't hurt on large pots, you just have to keep an eye open and remove the saucer should we get a lot of rain.
     
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    I've got a Rudbeckia Goldquelle growing in a pot that needs constant watering (it's going in the border next year). I have it sat in a bucket of water as the only way to get it watered right now.
     
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    Thanks Doghouse, Pete and SussexG for your replies.

    Its obviously something to consider for exceptional plants, but I am reassured that its not common practice for all plants. I would hate to think that all that time I had spent watering had been wasted. :cry:

    The question was prompted by finding a place that sells large saucers - to go under 50 and 35 litre pots. But having bought a few I now see the weather forcast is for rain for the next week. :D
     
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    I only do it when I'm going away. Saucers under pots outdoors, indoor chillis sat in the bath etc.

    I don't like doing it, but it's probably better them being too wet than drying out. Might get blossom end on me toms, but at least they'll live.
     
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    Peter, I have saucers under all my big pots with thirsty plants in & I water every evening, very occasionally mornings too if very hot.. I find that during the night & part of the day they take up the water steadily & all seem very happy & content.. Mine often sit in water over night & they take up steadily it seems.. As long as the roots at the base of the pots get a few hrs of no water every day, so they can absorb oxygen they will be fine but they must have those few hrs of no water to achieve this if you are using saucers...!!! :wink: Those are my findings... Water is vital, but so is oxygen to those roots every day.. :wink: Oh when we do get rain I usually remove all the saucers..
     
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    I've three pots of marigolds outside stood in a huge saucer of water at the moment!
     
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    Marley - thanks.

    You have probably put your finger on it. Maybe plant pots can sit in a saucer of water as long as the saucer is allowed to completely dry out at on a regular basis.
     
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    I tried that method with a Dahlia in a large pot the other day - watered it, but had it sitting in a large saucer at the same time, until the water ran out into the saucer. I left it overnight and by morning the saucer was dry.
     
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    I think it would work well with Dahlias. I was reading that they need more than 40 inches of rainfall equivalent over their growing season. Thats a year's worth of rain just in the growing season. This implies that you should be watering it even when its raining. :D
     
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    I do! After last year when I didn't and by this time it had finished blooming and died. This year it's covered in buds constantly (and swimming in water!).
     
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    :thumb: You are absolutely right Peter as long as they are allowed that drying time on a regular basis you will be fine.. It is the oxygen to the roots, but the soil never completely dries out either..
    One thing I will say Aaron & Peter, is I soak all the pots copletely before I start this watering regime so they all start off on an equal baseline.. You will obviously have to tailor it to certain plants but that is very easy to do & as I say I usually only water evenings..
    I have quite allot of 12, 14 & 16" dark green plastic bulb bowls, no drainage holes, I use for pot saucers that I bought from a local nursaryman in the village so they are 4 -6" deep as well for my real guzzler plants as well like Dahlias are Aaron. I don't have any of them myself but maybe find a deeper container or saucer to stand it in..
     
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    I think the key actually lies with the temperature, if its warm day and night you can get away with it, but come september it might be a good idea to let things go a little dryer.
    But it depends on the weather really.
    I've grown the odd canna as a marginal in a pond, but some types die if you do that.
    A lot of the plants I grow prefer to actually be under watered rather than overwatered, its a difficult question, but let hope we get some more hot weather:)
     
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    :wink: That is what I mean by tailoring your watering Pete.. We all know what plants we have & how they are taking up water, what speed etc..... Although I am speaking in very broad terms.. I am also saying tailor it to your plants if you see.. I am only saying what I am doing for my very thirsty plants in these drought times..... The rest might not get quite so much water, but the terms still apply... I do not water willy nilly, but what my plants want & speaking from my own experiences this works for me... :wink::thumb: I cannot see any problems if you know your plants & watch the weather which I try to do.... :D
     
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