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  1. shiney

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    Some of you will know that I was going to have some trees cut down and others were going to be heavily pruned. Unfortunately, the tree surgeon has been ill and in hospital so the work has been delayed. I don't want to get someone else to do the work as he has been doing our work for many years and his charges are very reasonable.

    The problem I have is that two of them are large conifers that were going to be totally removed. We provide our village florist with a lot of greenery which includes conifer trimmings. As the trees were going to be removed she came along last month and, with our permission, removed large portions of one tree so that there are big ugly gaps in it. We open our garden for charity every year so the tree has definitely got to go because it is so unsightly.

    I am worried that the birds may already be nesting in the trees. That particular will have to go but the other one could be left until next year - but we have already removed some of the plants around it and would like to develop that area in time for the open day.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated. :ntwrth:
     
  2. benacre

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    I think that you should leave the trees alone as Collard Doves and Dunnocks will be nesting by now.
    By all means top them but I would desist from removing them altogether until November. It was tbh rather foolish to let the florist help herself. she would have been better to have taken cuttings from a less obvious place.
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    Sorry shiney but I think you should not touch the trees if there is any chance that birds are nesting in them. Maybe a tidy up after the nesting season and just before your open day might be a compromise?
     
  4. lollipop

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    It has to stay for the birds which are definitely nesting in it, I am convinced that were you to explain it to visitors it would instructional to them that our gardens are homes to many things and aesthetics are not more important than sensitivity to nature. Were I to be a visitor I would applaud your decision, and one of the things that people enjoy the most when making an annual visit is to see a work in progress. I must admit to be a bit bored of perfect beds.


    Is there no way it could be tidied a little perhaps? And besides, judging from the pictures you have shown us of your garden I do not believe for a second that this would detract from its charm Shiney.
     
  5. JWK

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    I agree with Claire, people will respect you more for looking after the wildlife than creating a perfect vista - you could put a little sign up explaining why the tree looks ugly.
     
  6. benacre

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    I would never let that florist near your trees again she is obviously not a gardener
     
  7. Kandy

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    Shiney would it be possible to put up a couple of photo's to show us exactly what the problem looks like,because it is difficult trying to picture the damage by words alone,Ta.

    I would do as the others say and leave the conifers now until after the summer because now that the birds are doing their courting apart from Herons which start in February most of them get into the full swing of it next month plus with the bad weather we have just been experiencing,everything has been delayed somewhat.

    Was you there when the florist was helping herself?,because if she had had any sense she would have taken greenary from the back of the conifers if that was possible rather than hacking stuff off of the front,where it would be obvious to anyone walking past.

    Perhaps if you don't say anything your visitors might be polite enough to turn a blind eye to it or else you could say that some of the vegetation had died and gone brown so you had to have it removed as it looked unsightly.

    Sorry that I couldn't have been of more help:)
     
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    Just chop it down shiney. Whenever you do it it will upset some form of wildlife, insect, bird, squirrel. Cut off the limbs, (of the tree not birds) and if nests are being built they will look else where if disturbed. Unless you have an endangered species nesting, thats nature I am afraid.
     
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    Hi Shiney. I also think you should cut them down and im sure your regular Treesurgeon wouldn't mind if you hired someone else. "just this once " :) Also im sure your florist friend would of taken the branches from the back if she knew your Treesurgeon was going to be in hospital :scratch:
     
  10. Kandy

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    Hi Shiney I take It The Florist never climbed the tree:hehe: Assuming that she did,nt and the offending gaps are quite low down is there anyway you could put some kind of screen in front of them as a temporary measure:)
     
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    I would be inclined to watch for signs of nest building activity in the tree over a couple of days. If there is no such activity going on, I would just chop it down.

    Alternatively, strip off the bottom few branches completely, and then put a sign up saying the tree was being prepared for removal when you noticed nesting activity, so will leave it until after the nesting season. That way the damage would look intentional and people might let you off.
     
  13. shiney

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    Thanks everyone for your replies :gnthb:. Especially the link from Kandy :).

    We shall get in touch with the tree surgeon and see how he is and what he says about it. If he can come in within the next few days it might be OK.

    I wouldn't get any other tree surgeon to do it. I don't think anyone could come in at short notice and I don't think I could afford what they would charge.

    I can't blame the florist for hacking the tree about as the surgeon was due to come in two days after she did it.

    This first picture shows the three of the trees that were going to be removed. The one on the left hand side of the picture is now encroaching on the the driveway although it has been kept shaped for years. The eucalyptus that you can see past it has got to go. apart from from us letting it get rather tatty it will have to go in order to remove the stump and roots of the conifer next to it. That conifer is the one that has already been chopped about - and has been kept shaped at a height of about 9ft.


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    The next two pictures speak for themselves.


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    Thanks again for all your input :thumb: :)
     
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