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Pruning of the Rose Family Reference Sheet..

Discussion in 'Roses' started by Marley Farley, Mar 22, 2009.

  1. Marley Farley

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    :thumb: A Guide on how when & where to prune your roses..


    :) This thread will remain closed as the information is compiled, so that all the information runs smoothly & continuously so it makes sense to the reader..

    :thmb:Please feel free to contact Woo by PM as he compiles this thread, with your information about Pruning Roses.. Any tips & facts for inclusion in the thread...

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    Marley.:)






     
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    Don't be to Influenced by everything you read in gardening books. There's very often more than one right way to do something in gardening, so experiment, don't be worried by trying a different way and you'll learn a lot more than any book could teach you:)

    ]THE ROSE WORLD IS FULL OF MANY DIFFERENT METHODS AND VARIATIONS OF GROWING AND CARING FOR OUR ROSES FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY AND FROM GARDENER TO GARDENER,THESE THREADS JUST COVER A FEW
    OF THE TRIED AND TESTED WAYS .

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    You can buy roses as bare root plants between October and March or as container plants all year round
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    Bare-Root Roses - These are grown in the soil and lifted in Autumn to be sold in March, when they start growing. They need to be planted out immediately, temporarily or permanently so that the roots do not dry out.
    ainer Roses - Usually grown in the soil, lifted and potted in containers. The main advantage of these is that you can see the rose growing or flowering before you buy. They tend to be slightly more expensive but the planting season is all year round.

    GENERAL GUIDE
    TO

    PRUNING BUSH ROSES

    PLEASE USE CLEAN AND SHARP SECATEURS

    AS A GENERAL RULE CUT BACK BY ONE THIRD

    Please be careful every Rose has its own thorns
    This is not a job to rush Just take your time ,look at the Roses
    you cannot replace the stems you have cut off ,or your fingers
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    WHY
    To take out old and diseased wood and encourage new flowering shoots to grow.


    TO keep the plant in a good shape with an open centre that lets in light and air.
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    I Prune Roses in March generally speaking the harder a stem is pruned back the more vigorous the shoots that grow back will be.
    the reason for this is that the nutrients from the roots have less shoots to nourish.

    It is also imperative to open up the centre of the bush so that the air can circulate freely round the bush avoiding a build up of any foliage that is diseased and carrying fungal spores that maybe there.

    HOW?


    Try to Create a bucket shape,where all the stems from the base grow in an outward direction,so that the centre is open(empty)

    To Begin With remove all the spindly,dead,diseased and damaged wood.(this is,nt Pruning just tidying up)

    Every cut you make should be at a angle of 45 degrees and 1/4 inch (6mm) above a dormant shoot which has,nt started to grow ,if it has just drop down to the next dormant shoot that is still asleep.always select a dormant shoot that is pointing away from the centre of the bush
    To High - To Low--- Correct

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    1. The classical correct cut.

    2. Cut too far above the eye.

    3. Cut too steep an angle above the eye.

    4. Wrong direction of angle cut.


    5. Cut was badly executed, but more seriously a new pair of pruning shears is required. [​IMG]
     
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      Pruning Climbing Roses

      There is often confusion between Climbing and Rambling roses and although, generally speaking, both types can be used for much the same purposes, In My Opinion Climbers are better for walls and pergolas, Ramblers are good for trellis and arches

      For the first two or three years after planting, your new climbing rose will not require any pruning. During this initial period, your climbing roses should send up a few long stems, which can be trained into a basic framework for your future climbing rose's shape.

      If training roses up pillars, arches or pergolas, twist the main shoots gently around the uprights, keeping them as horizontal as possible, to encourage flowering shoots to form low down.

      The flowers of climbing roses appear at the tips of the shoots. So, if you let the shoots grow straight up you will only get flowers right at the top of them with the rest left bare. The trick is to encourage the main shoots to grow horizontally (fan them on a wall or twist them around an arch). This encourages small side shoots to grow from the main shoots and each one of these will produce flowers.

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        Pruning Standard Roses

        A standard rose is nothing more than a bush rose on the end of a stick:)

        Pruning your Standard roses follows the same operation of the same variety but remember that the bush on the end of the stem is a long way from its food supply so good feeding is essential.

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          Facts and Trivia about Roses

          OMNIPRESENT(POSH WORD FOR EVERYWHERE):hehe:The birthplace of the cultivated Rose was probably Northern Persia, on the Caspian, or Faristan on the Gulf of Persia. The oldest Rose fossils have been found in Colorado,dating back to more than 35 million years ago. Roses were considered the most sacred flowers in ancient Egyptand were used as offerings for the Goddess Isis. Roses have also been found in Egyptian tombs, where they were formed into funary wreaths.Confucius, 551 BC to 479 BC, reported that the Imperial Chinese library had many books on Roses.Ancient Sumerians of Mesopotamia (in the Tigris-Euphrates River Valley) mentioned Roses in a cuneiform tablet (a system of writing) written in approximately 2860 BC.The English were already cultivating and hybridizing Roses in the 15th Century when the English War of Roses took place. The winner of the war, Tudor Henry VII, created the Rose of England (Tudor Rose) by crossbreeding other Roses.

          While no Black Rose yet exists, there are some of such a deep Red color as to suggest Black.Roses are omnipresent and grown over all parts of the globe.The Netherlands is the world's leading exporter of Roses.
          The Netherlands, with about 8000 hectares of land under Rose cultivation, is the global leader in Rose cultivation. 54 per cent (about 5000 hectares) of the cultivated land in Ecuqador is under Rose cultivation!! Zambia, a small nation, had 80 per cent of its cultivated land under Roses.
           
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            PATIO ROSES Patio roses are simply small floribundas that grow to less than 2ft, and are suitable for containers as well as beds. What's the difference between a miniature and a patio, Miniatures are a bit bigger and bushier. The word originally referred to the size of the flower and not of the plant.'

            Patio Miniature Roses

            These grow to a height of 6-24 inches. Use them as edging plants, in front of other plants or in a narrow border on their own, some make an attractive small hedge. They look well planted in groups 3-5 of each variety. They are not house plants and are as hardy as larger roses. Patio roses grow bigger and bushier than miniatures and are better varieties for planting in tubs.


            Rosa (Miniature Rose, Pygmy rose, China rose) .'
            With varying heights up to 45cm (18in), the miniature rose is an ideal plant for pots, rockeries and the front of the border.
            Good examples include 'Angela Rippon', 'Queen Mother', 'Happy Birthday' and 'Snow Magic'.
            Their petite size may look good indoors, but they will only survive a short time in the dry, warm conditions. If you do take them indoors, restrict it to a month or so, keep them in a cool airy room and spray them with water at least daily.
            Like most roses miniature rose prefer a full sun position which helps to produce more and brighter flowers. A semi-shade position is OK if they get at least half the day's sun.
            Because of their more delicate root structure, miniature roses need a good supply of water at all times. Where they are in pots, this even more important. All miniature roses in open ground will appreciate an annual mulch of well-rotted compost around but not touching the stems. This will retain moisture and provide a slow release source of food.:)
             
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              GROUND COVER ROSES

              There are two types of ground cover rose. One grows about 2ft high before arching back towards the ground, and the other has stems that grow laterally a few inches above the soil, producing intermittent vertical flowering shoots about 2ft high.:)

              PRUNING

              Ground cover roses only need pruning in spring to keep within bounds. If an old plant is heavily congested, remove a few thick or crossing branches.
               
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                :cl-p: I would like to say a big thank you to Wiseoldowl for getting this thread up & running for us too..! :thmb:

                :) He has given us pretty comprehensive coverage of how to prune our roses.. There different kinds of roses & all need slightly different treatment to get the best from them..
                Woo has spilt them up so we can go to the specific type of rose we have & check to see we are pruning the correct way..
                We all love our roses, so it will be nice to know how to get the best from each one.. :)

                [​IMG] If you have any other thoughts that have perhaps been passed down the generations, then please send them to Woo for inclusion in the thread.. Also if you are having problems with your roses then please PM Woo..:thmb:

                :gnthb: So all that remains is for me to say "Thank You Woo" for this great information thread...:thmb:

                :thmb:Best of luck with your roses this year everyone & I now hope to see the "Members Rose Reference Gallery" that Woo is getting together for us filling up with your roses too..!!

                So don't forget to send him your photos & information. It won't grow very fast if we don't send them to him....!! :wink:
                 
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                  will try your method of pruning climbing roses its the only information I have ever been able to find thank you very much I am impressed
                   
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                    Hi Carolyn Mary Hartley you are most welcome:)
                     
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                    I think Woo would describe this point as a "tidying up" issue, but I "leave no leaves" when pruning, any leaves that are below one of the pruning points that Woo has pointed out need to be removed too.
                     
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                      Thanks Woo, I got some good advice.
                       
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                        Hi Jj no worries my friend only glad to be of some help:)
                         
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                        Thanks, Great thread as I was looking for some info on when and how to prune roses [​IMG]
                         
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