Rare Clematis

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  1. sal73

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    I need to give a present to a dear friend and she loves clematis
    if you had to choice one rare and british wich one would you suggest ??
     
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    I don't know about rare, Sal, as rare plants are usually hard to grow or propagate [which is why they're rare:heehee:]. but there are so many varieties of them out there. I have around 93 or more Clematis, and 80 different varieties in those, as they are one of my favourite plants. However there are, deciduous, Evergreen, Spring flowering, early Summer flowering, late Summer/Autumn flowering, Winter flowering, single form flowers, double, small and large flowers, and all the colours you can think of!!

    Well, none are truly British:dunno: , but some are grown in Britain and some have been developed by growers in Britain.

    What sort of soil and garden aspect has your friend got? Would she be growing it in the ground or in a large container? What sort of colours does she like?, and do you think she would like double or single flowers.?
     
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      Armandii , silly me of course , I should have asked you ....

      lets forget the hardiness and the color .......one that is remarkable ....
       
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      Oh sal, that's like asking a child in a sweetie shop which would be his/her favourite sweet if they could only have one!!:heehee:

      Let me have a think........and maybe somebody else could suggest one broaden the range of suggestions?!!:SUNsmile:
       
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        Quite a lot of Clematis have "common" names, so perhaps you might find one matching her name?

        Good do'ers perhaps? Most of those will be well known though, like The President
         
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          Hi sal, I'm always reluctant to recommend any plant to any one on the basis of what I like isn't necessarily what other people like, but having had a quick look at some of the varieties I have and some that I'm thinking of getting here's some suggestions. Bear in mind it's all down to personal taste!

          Tibetan Gem
          Sieboldii Florida
          Cirrhosa
          Belle of Taranaki
          Vienetta Evipo 006
          Dancing Smile Zodasmi
          Avant Garde Evipo 033
          Pale Princess
          Fauriel
          Scarlet Yoki
          Etta
          Fire Flame
          Simplicity
          Smilacifolia
          Dusky
          Apilfolia
          Peppermint Evipo 005
          Akebioides
          Fauriel
          Sen-no-kaze
          Felicia

          Some of these take some finding but are worth it.......but there are so many choices out there that you might like a lot more than I have suggested:snork: One Clematis that I fell in love with is Clematis Armandii and that is what started me off on growing them.:snork:
           
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              I've bought a few Clematis this year, but my favourite has to be Tangutica Golden Tiara:

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              Plus one Armandii has already suggested - Florida Sieboldii:

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                What do you folk grow them up? I'd like to put some in my borders, but not had inspiration for a suitable "frame" for them
                 
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                  Hi Kristen, much depends on the type and growth habit of the particular Clematis, for example there are the herbacious types that don't climb and just need support of a small obelisk or even a shrub. Then there are semi-climbing varieties that need support of a larger shrub, obelisk or even a post of some sort.

                  The more familiar climbing varieties of Clematis are traditionally grown against walls, over arches etc can still be grown in the border through and up mature shrubs and trees. Group 3 Clematis are excellent for this as they are pruned down to almost ground level in the spring so are not left on the shrubs and trees and as they also flower later in the year they provide and extended period of interest if grown through a shrub that would be finished flowering by mid-summer for example.

                  Some of the Group 1 & 2 Clematis can be grown up permenant supports amongst the border plants, things like posts, large obelisks etc..:)
                   
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                    The easiest way is to grow them through established shrubs. It's possible to plan some lovely colour combinations with choisyas, eleagnus, teucrium fruticans and osmanthus. It's also a good way of prolonging flower-power in spring-flowering deciduous shrubs or trees. Snap Bilbo:)
                    My recommendation for an unusual one would be 'Chalcedony'...lovely big lilac/silver double.
                     
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                    Those are the ones I keep buying ... and then start looking for a location for !!

                    This has got to be the answer for me, thanks. Whilst I know about this I've never actually done it. Overthinking the problem I suspect! Will ANY shrub do? or does it need to be one with a more open framework of branches?

                    I don't think I've ever seen this arrangement in a style that I liked. To me it looked like some climbers "plonked" in a flower bed of otherwise lower-level plants. I'd be interested in any examples folk have seen that they thought were attractive - or just hearing that you all disagree with me!
                     
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                      Don't know about you but I'm planning to change my name by deed poll to Dancing Smile Zodasmi and think this will have a transformative effect on my humdrum existence.
                       
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                        :lunapic 130165696578242 5:

                        I don't know who thinks the names up but very few actually translate the beauty of the plant!!
                        Some of the names of plants are so funny and some are so strange!!

                        Don't change your name, I like you as you are!!:heehee:
                         
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                          How did a Potato get to be called "Pink Fir Apple"?

                          Or a French apple "Golden Delicious"? :heehee:
                           
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