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Redorta tomato

Discussion in 'Greenhouse Growing' started by hydrogardener, Jun 30, 2018.

  1. hydrogardener

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    A local surveyor gave me seeds for Redorta tomatoes that he purchased from Seeds of Italy. I only planted a few and they got off to a late start, but they are starting to take off. It is a San Marzano and we are looking forward to tying them fresh as well as in sauce. I was not too enthused at first, but I am starting to change my mind after seeing the fruit. Definitely will be saving seeds from this baby.

    "San Marzano Redorta. Franchi Special Selection. Named for a mountain in the Alps, this is a very large (10-12 ounce) San Marzano type plum tomato. Indeterminate. Large, vigorous plant. This has real tomato flavor and is good to eat fresh, make sauce, can or dry."

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      Will be interested to know what you think as I grow San Marzano too..:SUNsmile:
       
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        I have 6 grafted from Sutton’s and 12 2s from seed and all doing well in the tunnel @Zigs :SUNsmile:
         
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          Do you find the grafted plants to be remarkably better than the ones from seed?
          I have 4 cordon tomatoes and 7 bushes varieties from Sutton's, all grafted, but I was considering trying growing some from seeds next year.

          I have to say, touching wood, for the moment none of my tomatoes seem to have contracted any infection, or to be prone to pests. But I am not sure whether it might be the grafting or rather the fact that they are sitting either on a new bed or in new planters with pretty good potting soil plus vermiculite and perlite, so quite pampered.
          For sure, after a first disastrous attempt with Sutton's grafted peppers, I decided to take their "plant in the garden right away, it's grafted!" claims with more than a pinch of salt, and I left developing indoor for a minimum of three weeks all other plugs and potted plants I received from them.
           
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            I have six grafted plants from a reliable supplier and compared to my own seed grown they are poor and very late I will be lucky to see a tom from these before end of August a complete waste of money imo
             
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              I usually graft my own because I grow in the same soil every year, I have no doubt that grafted produce much better plants. This year because I have a new greenhouse I am growing in virgin soil so all my plants are just seed grown and most are doing OK. One or two are weak and spindly where there must be something under the soil surface I missed (remains of old chalk path I didn't dig out enough probably).

              Next year you should try one or two grafted and compare them to seed grown @Aldo. Grafting will make them more vigorous and protect against soil borne diseases that build up year after year.
               
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                Thanks, which varieties were those, if I may ask?
                 
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                Thanks John.
                That is a very good point.
                Being my first year growing anything, I did not have to worry about any build-up of diseases on the bed, but of course next year it might be a problem, both with the planters and the raised beds.
                Unfortunately, truly sunny spots are limited in my garden, particularly on an average year. This year is very warm and the plants could have done well in some other spots too, but I cannot really assume that next summer will be this good.
                So, I will definitely have to reuse the same beds, and probably the same planters too, given I have some strawberries in them which hopefully next year will do well.

                I will try as you suggested, sow some and buy some grafted ones, and see how well they do.
                 
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                  hi Aldo the varieties were three Bumble bee plants and three Crimson crush plants.
                  I will stick with mycorrhizal fungi for the following, I have found
                  1) It gives a fantastic root system
                  2) It seems to protect the pants roots as I have now been growing in the same border for 5 years with no signs of diseased roots
                  3) Plants do not suffer a setback as they do in grafting.
                  4) grafted plants I have tried are not as good as those using mycorrhizal fungi in the same border using the same method of growing and feeding.
                  5) Plants that have been treated with mycorrhizal fungi do not seem to be affected with blossom end rot possibly as they have a much larger root system.
                   
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                    Thanks, I have read about it in commercial brochures, so I was a bit wary of the claims they make about it.
                    Can you suggest any specific product you have been happy with?
                     
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                    I always used Vaminoc mycorrhizal fungi but could not get any this year when I was running short The cheapest I have seen is this one
                    EMPATHY-ROOTGROW-RHS-APPROVED-800-GRAMS-PRODUCED-BY-PLANTWORKS on E bay
                    Don't know if it is any good. 800 grms for £9.99
                    Rgds Sandy
                     
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                      I have grafted and my own seed sown and now they are all fruiting I can honestly say i can't see ny difference this year, but thats the first time.. I always use a Microrrhizal too.. This year I am using Extreme Gardening Xycos microrrhizae as my local garden centre was trying it this year and have had fab results so far with it.. https://www.xtreme-gardening.com/mykos?lightbox=dataItem-im3sa2yp
                       
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                        Thanks!
                        I just ordered it. Aside of the tomato shoots, I have 18 strawberries on my windowsill waiting to be planted, so I will give it a go and report on the, hopefully positive, outcome :)
                         
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                        Thanks, I only saw your message now, and in the meanwhile I ordered the ebay one, but I'll save the link for the future :)
                         
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