Ricinus (Castor Oil Plant) Identification

Discussion in 'Identification Area' started by *dim*, Apr 8, 2012.

  1. *dim*

    *dim* Head Gardener

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2011
    Messages:
    3,548
    Location:
    Cambridge
    Ratings:
    +1,593
    I bought 2 small Ricinus plug plants a few weeks ago off ebay .... they were advertised as Ricinus Communis 'carmencita red'

    I potted them up in 9cm pots and have been nursing them and waiting for the weather to warm, so that I can plant them in a garden

    They were approx the same size, and I fed one with supercharged compost tea, and the other with tap water (the large one is the one fed with the tea)

    what puzzles me, is carmencita red is supposed to have red leaves .... do they have green leaves when they are young, then the leaves change in colour as they get older? ....

    The older leaves at the bottom have a different shape (oval), and the new top leaves look different and are lobed

    or have I been sold another varient of the Ricinus? ....

    herewith 2 pics

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Bilbo675

    Bilbo675 Total Gardener

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    4,495
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Gardener & Plant Sales
    Location:
    South Derbyshire
    Ratings:
    +6,654
    Hi, I've grown Carmencita 'Pink' and that had green leaves too and pink flowers...

    I also grew 'New Zealand Purple' which is a stunning purple leaved and stemmed variety with bright red flowers..
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • *dim*

      *dim* Head Gardener

      Joined:
      Jun 26, 2011
      Messages:
      3,548
      Location:
      Cambridge
      Ratings:
      +1,593
      thanks .... it's just that if you google Ricinus Communis 'carmencita red', it shows pics of reddish brown leaves

      I know that they have green leaves when they are seedlings, but the larger one of mine has pretty big leaves at the moment, and they are still green

      so perhaps I was sold another species? .... I don't really mind as they were cheap, and these are a first for me ....

      but would have liked the red leaves for the garden I am planting it in
       
    • Spruce

      Spruce Glad to be back .....

      Joined:
      Apr 10, 2009
      Messages:
      8,771
      Gender:
      Male
      Ratings:
      +12,356
      Hi Dim

      They are realy easy to grow from seed and you still have plenty of time to sow them


      Spruce
       
      • Like Like x 1
      • sal73

        sal73 Total Gardener

        Joined:
        Sep 4, 2011
        Messages:
        2,833
        Gender:
        Male
        Location:
        Bedford
        Ratings:
        +3,011
        Really need to start to use some tea with mine , got 4 blue new zeland giant about a foot high but nothing like yours ....first year I`m growing ricinus but I`m really curious about what I heard ......someone told me that his one is coming back from the roots every year ......true or false?
         
      • *dim*

        *dim* Head Gardener

        Joined:
        Jun 26, 2011
        Messages:
        3,548
        Location:
        Cambridge
        Ratings:
        +1,593
        Hi Sal .... depends where they grow ....

        I have read that in warmer countries, they grow as tall as small trees and if it is not cold, they remain in leaf all year

        I'm growing them as an annual to fill some gaps in a new garden that has been planted in tropical style, and where the plants / shrubs are still small
         
      • sal73

        sal73 Total Gardener

        Joined:
        Sep 4, 2011
        Messages:
        2,833
        Gender:
        Male
        Location:
        Bedford
        Ratings:
        +3,011
        Hi Dim , I know about hot country , but the person who told me about is from Bedford .....She told me that in May her plant start to sproud again from the base , as we all grow them as annual , I don`t know myself how true can it be.....I was thinking of a different plant , but she was specific that was a ricinus...I`m thinking of self seeding or that the roots are actually frost hardy ,but I can`t say untill i will see or try myself.
         
      • sal73

        sal73 Total Gardener

        Joined:
        Sep 4, 2011
        Messages:
        2,833
        Gender:
        Male
        Location:
        Bedford
        Ratings:
        +3,011
        It could be actually really interesting if anyone else have left the roots in the ground and the plant grow back.
         
      • Bilbo675

        Bilbo675 Total Gardener

        Joined:
        Mar 15, 2011
        Messages:
        4,495
        Gender:
        Male
        Occupation:
        Gardener & Plant Sales
        Location:
        South Derbyshire
        Ratings:
        +6,654
        Hi Sal, I usually grow mine in large pots and last winter they were still looking good until after Christmas, they'd even taken a couple of light frosts, when the leaves finally become tatty I cut them off and removed the seed heads for this year's seed. On the main stems were lots of new shoots, unfortunately another frost finished them off before I got them under cover; this was only in February.

        So if they're in the ground and in a sheltered spot I suppose its possible that they may survive a mild winter and re-shoot from the stem or base..:dbgrtmb:
         
        • Like Like x 2
        • sal73

          sal73 Total Gardener

          Joined:
          Sep 4, 2011
          Messages:
          2,833
          Gender:
          Male
          Location:
          Bedford
          Ratings:
          +3,011
          the person who told me about this dasn`t have a clue of what ricinus was but apparently her ricinus have resproud from the last 5 years , that means went trough the 2010 winter .......the funny thing of all is that she didn`t know about how poisonous is the plant and has she got a young kid she will destroy the plant asap.
          That means that we have to wait another year o find out unless Bilbo will find out for us ; )
           
        • Kristen

          Kristen Under gardener

          Joined:
          Jul 22, 2006
          Messages:
          17,534
          Gender:
          Male
          Location:
          Suffolk, UK
          Ratings:
          +12,669
          *Dim* - no help I expect, but I find that quite a lot of "purple leaved plants" start out green, so yours may "turn" as they mature, and with increased exposure to daylight

          But I don't know about Ricinus Communis 'carmencita red' specifically

          Not sure you have space, currently, to raise plants? But if you do Jungle Seeds sell Ricinus New Zealand Purple and they germinate easily and grow like Blue Blazes! so plenty of time to sow as yet (yours are a bit early, and will be "large" to keep any late frosts off etc.)
           
          • Like Like x 1
          • JWK

            JWK Gardener Staff Member

            Joined:
            Jun 3, 2008
            Messages:
            32,357
            Gender:
            Male
            Location:
            Surrey
            Ratings:
            +49,723
            I've grown Ricinus New Zealand Purple this year from seed, just took this photo of mine. I sowed them too early as I hadn't appreciated how quickly they grew. Mine have been in the greenhouse where it's a bit colder in an attempt to slow them down and I think the red colouring has appeared since I moved them out there.

            OK it's not the same variety as 'carmencita red' but I reckon yours will start to show colour as Kristen says, when it matures.
            IMG_6153.JPG
             
            • Like Like x 1
            • Kristen

              Kristen Under gardener

              Joined:
              Jul 22, 2006
              Messages:
              17,534
              Gender:
              Male
              Location:
              Suffolk, UK
              Ratings:
              +12,669
              Yellow labels John? Some special coding system perhaps? :)
               
            • JWK

              JWK Gardener Staff Member

              Joined:
              Jun 3, 2008
              Messages:
              32,357
              Gender:
              Male
              Location:
              Surrey
              Ratings:
              +49,723

              :) No, it doesn't mean anything. Just whatever comes to hand when I'm potting on.
               
            • Kristen

              Kristen Under gardener

              Joined:
              Jul 22, 2006
              Messages:
              17,534
              Gender:
              Male
              Location:
              Suffolk, UK
              Ratings:
              +12,669
              Blast ... was expecting to be enlightened :(

              FWIW I bought 100 each of about 5 different coloured labels. I put them in pots to "identify them", so if I have just 3 or 4 of something (pricked out seedlings, rooted cuttings, ...) that I have put in small pots (say) I label one properly, and then put a same-coloured label in all of them. I only need enough colours for how ever many varieties I am using - I'm not going to confuse a blue-labelled Salvia with a blue-labelled Hydrangea! - and once I get them out into the border (as a group) the coloured labels are retrieved

              I've got quite a few Lilly varieties in pots - some now have two-blue-labels per pot :yahoo:

              Its only really so that as I move things around its not too important that I manage to keep them together (well, you know how it goes, "helpful family members" lend a hand and don't know the piling-system in use!!!)
               
              • Like Like x 1
              Loading...

              Share This Page

              1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
                Dismiss Notice