Rose in Scotland ..help requested.

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  1. Silver surfer

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    I believe it is old.
    A vigorous rambler.
    Large trusses.
    Single flowering I suspect.

    Buds pale yellow.
    Flowers in huge clusters ..individually small, pure white, 5 petal.
    Multiple yellow stamens.

    Flowers then fade to a sort of mottled pink verging on red.

    Please can anyone help to give a name to this rose.
    I have tried www search with no joy...too many words confuse any search.
    Thank you.
     
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    Many thanks pamsdish for looking.
    Giving a name to old roses is hard.
    Probably no longer in nursery catalogues.
    I feel personal knowledge from everyone here, might fare better than hours wasted on computer.
    I can get roses with 5 simple white petals...but not yellow in bud or fading to deep pink

    Sadly Bobbie James and Rambling Rector are not THE one...
    Both are semi doubles with more than 5 petals.
     
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      I wonder if @wiseowl could help you with this rose Silver surfer? :)
       
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      Good morning all my friends (Silver Surfer)I will do my best for you:smile:
      Has it got a scent.
       
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      Are you able to post a picture? :)
       
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        Shiney I had assumed that someone as knowledgeable as our friend Silver Surfer would have posted a photo if that was at all possible:lunapic 130165696578242 5::lunapic 130165696578242 5::lunapic 130165696578242 5:

        My apologies Shiney my friend ,I just couldn't resist :blue thumb::heehee:
         
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            Thank you Shiney for having a great sense of humour :blue thumb:,all it needs now is to Silver Surfer to post a photo,and yours truly will have egg on his beak:heehee:
             
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              That's enough hilarity Woo:smile:

              This is what's proving difficult,Of course it could be one of the old Scots Roses and most of them are unnamed:smile:


              At the moment all I have is ,but will continue to look:smile:

              FRANCIS E LESTER
              Rambling Rose. 1946. 15ft-20f

              Wedding Day.

              Sir Cedric Morris.
               
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              I didn't add pics before as flowers are now as good as over. Rain hasn't helped.
              For what they are worth pics added....hope they help.
              Yes.. rose is fragrant.
              I have seen it in several mature old gardens in the area.
              A friend has asked me for a name. Duh!

              Hope you will be able to help wiseowl.

              Realise it is a long shot. Just thought maybe someone might recognise it!
               

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                Thanks for the suggestions Woo....
                'Francis E. Lester' is a strong-growing large rambler with dark green foliage and pink buds..so eliminated that one

                Wedding day..no sign of it aging pink/red.

                Sir Cedric Morris...ditto.
                 
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                'Cherokee' perhaps?
                 
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                Good morning all,Silver Surfer ‘Wedding Day’This is vigorous and upright in habit with clusters of single, lemon-white flowers that often age to pink. Its fruity fragrance makes it is well worth growing. Survives on a north wall too. Yellow buds opening to creamy white single flowers held in clusters, almost immediately becoming white:smile:


                Seagull:smile:
                 
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                  Many thanks Woo for you learned advice.

                  Maybe I just am not finding pics of Rosa Wedding Day on www showing the deep pink the flowers fade to. Otherwise it fits well.

                  I am not normally nerdy about rose names but my friend who owns it has been told it is rare.
                  Whilst I know it is in many gardens in this area!
                  So just thought I would try to id it.
                  Really the name is an irrelevance as long as she can get pleasure and enjoyment from it.
                   
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